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House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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I have yet to see a single example of Trump's racism. It's an oft repeated cliche that has yet to be demonstrated by anyone. As much of a "clown" as trump might be, half of his labels are completely pulled out of thin air.

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Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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> The removal of private email addresses should be left to the State Department who was in charge of releasing those emails. Only for her work email account. This is her personal email account that they requested to release, but it isn't under their control. Employers aren't supposed to be able to control one's private email account.

Yeah, a private email account which was used extensively for official government business. With no work email account ever setup. It's a matter of law that any and all work related emails on a personal email address are to be handed over for future FOIA requests, etc. upon leaving office. If I used my personal email address for all communication with my companies clients for work, they'd demand all of those emails wh…

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Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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"Combetta appeared under subpoena in a committee hearing last week on the alleged destruction of evidence, but both he and colleague Bill Thornton exercised their Fifth Amendment right not to testify."

Actually it's the Fifth Amendment protection against self incrimination.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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You haven't been paying attention. Yes, pepe was fine, and yes many people who post it do so with no ill intent. But you are ignoring that people who are proudly racist are openly admitting to using pepe specifically to broaden and popularize explicitly racist ideas. That deserves to have light shown on it.

> But you are ignoring that people who are proudly racist are openly admitting to using pepe specifically to broaden and popularize explicitly racist ideas You mean like the prominent white supremacists quoted in the article linked to by that expose? Who later turned out to be a couple of trolls making up stuff for shits and giggles to see what sort of ridiculous things they could make journalists write? ( http://dai…

No, I mean people like Richard Spencer, an unashamed white supremacist who believes in segregating by race.

"We live in a society of a great deal of degeneracy, we live in a society in which the fundamental norms are liberal, and we are attempting to fight our way out of that. And sometimes that's going to involve using the means that are at hand. That's going to involve being a part of this fragmented group. That's going to involve dank memes. It's going to involve pepe. It's going to involve unleashing a little chaos". - Richard Spencer at the recent conference of the Alt Right

Willfully ignoring that these people are attempting to get organized, and co-opting whatever gets them traction, is unhelpful at best and dangerous.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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You're literally repeating clinton talking points. Do you think you're contributing to the discussion amongst people that in no way believe any of the garbage you just wrote?

Please take care to remain civil when commenting here.

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Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Yeah, a private email account which was used extensively for official government business. With no work email account ever setup. It's a matter of law that any and all work related emails on a personal email address are to be handed over for future FOIA requests, etc. upon leaving office. If I used my personal email address for all communication with my companies clients for work, they'd demand all of those emails wh…

> If I used my personal email address for all communication with my companies clients for work, they'd demand all of those emails when I left the company. But they wouldn't be able to get them, no matter how hard they demanded. Personal email addresses exist. Companies have to deal with that fact.

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Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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The original HN post got flagged and removed from HN homepage. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12533757 250 points (more than this post at the moment)

Now this thread is below the fold showing 254 points on the FP and when you get in it says 312 Screenshots http://sli.mg/a/wMhiQp

I'm confused about what you're trying to point out here, but if there's a question I'd be happy to answer.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Sounded like it was clearly "you" as legal Mexicans and other immigrants. The rest of the sentence is about illegals -- he's not, afaik, made any claims about Mexicans in general. If he was actually making a racist statement, then immigration status wouldn't matter.

"You" clearly haven't even read or seen the speech and are talking completely out of your ass. It was one of his opening talking points in his presidential announcement in New York City to his cronies - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/06... It's pretty straightforward xenophobic, hyper jingoist nationalist rhetoric. You = us good Americans. They = the Other. He uses the car industry for Japa…

I saw it, way back when he spoke. "They're not sending you" never occurred to me as "you, Americans". That'd uh, make no sense: Mexico is not a significant source of Americans immigrating to America.

At any rate, it's still besides the point. He's accurate in saying that people coming in illegally aren't "the best". If you're a top professional you're not going to risk illegal immigration anywhere, generally speaking. This lines up with my and others' personal experience (I lived in Central America for nearly 2 decades).

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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And she still will be elected, because this year we had to have joke candidates on both sides. I guess it's probably the best time to vote 3rd party.

I honestly can't understand how anybody is considering voting for Clinton or Trump. If this world was anything close to reasonable, Gary Johnson would win in a landslide. shrug

I'm with you, Johnson all the way. Voting for someone who's positions I mostly align with, who would do the best job for our country with the least amount of drama. Not for the lesser of two evils, or to make sure the "other guy" doesn't win. That's not a protest vote.

If you haven't heard of Johnson Weld, please hear them out and at least watch their 60 Minutes interview from last night: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-libertarian-candidate...

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Last time I checked "undocumented" immigrants aren't a race, and they also broke the law. It's not racist to attack people breaking the law.

This claim cain only be made by somebody ignorant of the history of racism: racism almost always lives with a non-racist pretext. Here are a couple of examples, though many more exist: Lynchings were instigated by an accusation of a crime - the perpetrators could claim they weren't racist, they were just keeping their communities safe! [1] Japanese internment too had a non-racist pretext: people of Japanese descent w…

Are there a ton of EU overstays causing noticeable impact? Do you think if millions of Russians were illegally in the US working low-end jobs (for the most part) and being rather highly visible (flying Russian flags at protests) it'd be waved off?
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