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Apple Slaps Developers In The Face

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Re: Apple Slaps Developers In The Face

#22

I'm sorry, but I really don't give a damn. There's a lot of speculation here (and elsewhere), and until I hear anything official from Apple I refuse to get too wound up.

You seriously think that if this were just a misunderstanding, they would let all of this Apple hate grow and grow for over 24 hours? They would have issued a statement clarifying things by the end of business hours yesterday if this "speculation" were wrong.

Re: Apple Slaps Developers In The Face

#23

  The trouble is that we will never hear their discontent
  because Apple employees are forbidden from blogging, 
  posting to social networks, or other things that we at 
  companies with an open culture take for granted.
...

  Comments are closed.
A little hypocritical don't you think?

Re: Apple Slaps Developers In The Face

#25
So, there are a couple things here that jump to my mind.

1. Adobe isn't completely innocent. They're pretty close to a monopoly on their type of software and charge dearly for it (their Creative Suite costs as much as a MacBook Pro). They've done a lot to make sure there are no non-Adobe Flash players even when that's just hurting customers and not costing them money since they don't sell the player. They're not exactly "open" and "free".

2. Apple could be said to have an interest in not supporting intermediaries. Intermediaries are likely to create less efficient code and I'm sure they don't want to deal with developers using up their support time over things that are the fault of Adobe's Flash SDK or Novell's C# one.

3. It's also in Apple's interest to get people using Objective-C and their toolkit. It brings developers to the Mac by forcing them to buy one. That will have positive externalities in more software for the Mac. It gets developers into the Obj-C camp which means more people with Mac development skills. It means that apps can't be re-compiled for iPhone, Android, and webOS - and that's huge for customer lock-in. We all know how users get attached to their apps and I think it's easy to imagine Adobe building an Android compiler right after the iPhone one got finished.

Do I like Apple's stance? No. As a user and a developer, it's bad for me. However, Apple's the market leader and getting people to use their API gives them control and means that app developers will always be ready to use the latest new features they add while building a wall of incompatibility against Android and webOS that will keep users buying iPhones for apps in the way that users bought Windows computers for their apps for ages.

Jobs wanted web apps. Developers balked. Web apps would have been cross-platform (at least with Android and webOS). Apple responded to developers and now they've seen their chance to lock users and developers to their system.

Adobe isn't known for being open. Given the chance, Adobe seems to wall itself off as much as Apple. Companies tend to go for openness insofar as it's in their interests.

Re: Apple Slaps Developers In The Face

#26

I'm sorry, but I really don't give a damn. There's a lot of speculation here (and elsewhere), and until I hear anything official from Apple I refuse to get too wound up.

We have something official, more official than any press release: the developer contract.

No matter what Apple says in the next few days, nothing short of removing the new clause can prevent Apple from enforcing it at will.

Re: Apple Slaps Developers In The Face

#27
post #16

I continue to be impressed with the license Adobe gives their official representative. This is not the first unprofessional reaction I've seen on this blog. Yes, it is understandable. Is it wise? Maybe a better worded response could inflame the minds of the abused more effectively and not sound like a temper tantrum.

theflashblog.com is not an official Adobe blog. Let me clarify -- theflashblog.com is not produced by Adobe, the company. It is written by an official representative of Adobe, but it is not the official response of Adobe the company, and the site is not an official Adobe site.

> Now let me put aside my role as an official representative of Adobe for a moment . . .

Re: Apple Slaps Developers In The Face

#28

[Sentence regarding Apple's intentions redacted at request from Adobe] did anyone read this before the post was edited?

"What is clear is that Apple has timed this purposely to hurt sales of CS5"

As many other commenters pointed out here, theflashblog.com is not an official Adobe blog.This is definitely not "Adobe's reaction" as the title suggests.

Re: Apple Slaps Developers In The Face

#29
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly, they won't make the same mistake twice. History is foremost in everyone's mind right now.

Unfortunately they haven't learned the other part of their history that got them almost bankrupted.

Care to elaborate? I don't know Apple history too well, but I thought their near-bankruptcy was just because their products weren't very good and Microsoft was dominating the PC market.

Re: Apple Slaps Developers In The Face

#30
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think some people are alluding to the fact that he was knocking on death's door as little as a year ago. Probably most people don't wish him dead, but some certainly wish for the _effects_ of him dead, some of which might be the loosening of tyrannical grip on developers and a decrease in the number of purely emotional decisions (this, banning Google Voice, etc.).

No disrespect intended here. But I have to say this. I just think this is starting to get a little morbid. It's better to win in the field of ideas. If you have a better way, go compete. Create a phone or a tablet or a web site or whatever, and build a business. Wishing someone dead so you can leach off of the one they built is a little 'punk-like'. Now again, no disrespect. I'm just sayin'.

Just to be clear, I'm not saying I want him dead or even the effects of that. I'm just speculating that many people probably do. You could not possibly disrespect me by saying anything about those hypothetical people because I do not embrace their position.
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