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Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by oldmanjay »

mcphage wrote: post #96
School-Cotton wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who cares? Literally what point are you making? Dude, do you think this is a football game? That scoring a point against your opponent negates points scored against you? I suspect a big chunk of the people complaining about this would have complained even harder when Bush did it (if what you say is true), if they had been old enough to be aware what was going on, and had social media like we do now. So, what is your…

> Literally what point are you making? The point I'm making is that I don't think you, or anybody else actually cares about the emails—they care it's something they can criticize Clinton for. Before her, nobody gave a shit. After her, nobody will give a shit. They don't matter, except that they can be used to criticize Clinton. So of course nobody complained about it with Bush, because nobody cares about them. > I su…

Are you trying to claim that no one complained about Bush? If so, I have to assume you are rather young.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by pdabbadabba »

TillE wrote: post #97
discodave wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The actual facts aside I happen to believe that facts are important in a Presidential race. Essentially your response is repeating talking points of the Trump campaign... which is OK, 1st amendment and all that but to pretend like you're making a constructive addition to the discussion / debate is folly. Right now America has a choice between Trump, a racist, mysoginist demagogue who has never held a public office…

> the most experienced presidential candidate of the last couple of decades George H. W. Bush was a two term vice president, director of the CIA, etc. I've been following this election pretty closely for more than a year, and I seriously couldn't tell you what Clinton's positive message is besides "I'm experienced". Nobody cares. Americans don't elect technocratic planks of wood. This is the worst, most inept preside…

He was elected a "couple of decades" ago. Feel old now? :)

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by phil248 »

jimmywanger wrote: post #26

The actual facts aside, this makes her appear far less electable, as her campaign camp looks like it's being run by a bunch of clowns. Just from a PR perspective, this could not have come at a worse time. The collapse at the 9/11 memorial, the "basket of deplorables", and the mention of the Pepe meme on her official website. Right after a couple of muslim terror attacks, some evidence surfaces purporting that she tri…

How many more decades of witch hunts and investigations before we find some damn fire?

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by Mao_Zedang »

phil248 wrote: post #114
jimmywanger wrote: post #26

The actual facts aside, this makes her appear far less electable, as her campaign camp looks like it's being run by a bunch of clowns. Just from a PR perspective, this could not have come at a worse time. The collapse at the 9/11 memorial, the "basket of deplorables", and the mention of the Pepe meme on her official website. Right after a couple of muslim terror attacks, some evidence surfaces purporting that she tri…

How many more decades of witch hunts and investigations before we find some damn fire?

It will happen pretty fast after a regime change, you cant expect dems to indite their own.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by FragenAntworten »

losvedir wrote: post #73
mindcrime wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly can't understand how anybody is considering voting for Clinton or Trump. If this world was anything close to reasonable, Gary Johnson would win in a landslide. shrug

As a Gary Johnson supporter myself, I freely admit that he has some extreme policies that can turn off a lot of voters. But what really frustrates me is how many people I've heard from that do prefer him but are afraid to vote for him because of the spoiler effect. I keep (wishful thinking) envisioning a scenario where he gets just enough votes that all of a sudden everyone on the fence realizes that maybe he could w…

Critical mass?

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by minikites »

mindcrime wrote: post #44
takeda wrote: post #40

And she still will be elected, because this year we had to have joke candidates on both sides. I guess it's probably the best time to vote 3rd party.

I honestly can't understand how anybody is considering voting for Clinton or Trump. If this world was anything close to reasonable, Gary Johnson would win in a landslide. shrug

The world is reasonable to reject him as a candidate.

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/09/gary-johnson-libertarian-...

Prisons:

>Johnson accepted at least $9,000 in campaign donations from a prison company that ultimately won a state contract. By the time he left office, New Mexico led the country in for-profit prisons, housing 44 percent of its inmates in private facilities. Only Alaska, with 31 percent, came close.

>In 2000, after four inmates and a guard were killed in private facilities, Johnson vetoed an oversight bill and startled reporters by insisting that New Mexico had the best prisons in the nation.

Poverty:

>Within just a few months, the state had knocked more than 16,000 people off its welfare rolls, and its poverty rate had risen to first in the nation, according to a report from the state’s legislature.

Schools:

>For Democratic legislators, the trouble wasn’t just that Johnson wanted to divert money from the public system to private institutions. It was that his plan would privilege rich families in the long run, said Charles Bowyer, who served as government-relations director of the teachers’ union during Johnson’s tenure. Tuition at the most prestigious private schools often cost around $8,000 or $9,000 — meaning low-income families could never afford them, even with vouchers. And private schools would still be able to reject special-needs students.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by mcphage »

oldmanjay wrote: post #111
mcphage wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Literally what point are you making? The point I'm making is that I don't think you, or anybody else actually cares about the emails—they care it's something they can criticize Clinton for. Before her, nobody gave a shit. After her, nobody will give a shit. They don't matter, except that they can be used to criticize Clinton. So of course nobody complained about it with Bush, because nobody cares about them. > I su…

Are you trying to claim that no one complained about Bush? If so, I have to assume you are rather young.

> Are you trying to claim that no one complained about Bush?

No, we complained constantly. But we had more important things to complain about then where his email server was.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by cloakandswagger »

imron wrote: post #95
brown9-2 wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and the mention of the Pepe meme on her official website mentioning a meme on her website is disqualifying?

> huh? It's horrifying https://www.hillaryclinton.com/post/donald-trump-pepe-the-fr... Edit: In response to your edit, she's attacking a cartoon frog . In seriousness. Not only that, but she's trying to attribute characteristics to that frog that simply aren't any core part of why people post Pepe memes. All of that questions the sensibilities of her campaign. Basically her campaign is going all out trying to paint T…

I especially love the pop-up modal asking me "Is Trump unfit to be President?" on that site.

There's only a single button (I Agree), and clicking the X in the corner to close the modal causes the button to be pushed at the same time.

For someone as "experienced" as Clinton, her campaign is astoundingly incompetent.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by MichaelGG »

discodave wrote: post #77
jimmywanger wrote: post #26

The actual facts aside, this makes her appear far less electable, as her campaign camp looks like it's being run by a bunch of clowns. Just from a PR perspective, this could not have come at a worse time. The collapse at the 9/11 memorial, the "basket of deplorables", and the mention of the Pepe meme on her official website. Right after a couple of muslim terror attacks, some evidence surfaces purporting that she tri…

> The actual facts aside I happen to believe that facts are important in a Presidential race. Essentially your response is repeating talking points of the Trump campaign... which is OK, 1st amendment and all that but to pretend like you're making a constructive addition to the discussion / debate is folly. Right now America has a choice between Trump, a racist, mysoginist demagogue who has never held a public office…

Curious, do you have a handful of racist Trump quotes? Not stuff about illegals, but actual racist stuff (like not wanting to rent to blacks or something)?

Trump aside, electing someone that's openly corrupt (DNC Wikileaks show they went against Bernie, against rules) seems to be far more dangerous to the future of the US and worldwide democracy. Up until now, corruption was sort of assumed, but if a publicly corrupt candidate wins, it just shows "crime pays".

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