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Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by rezashirazian » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 1:26 AM UTC

jimmywanger wrote: post #26

The actual facts aside, this makes her appear far less electable, as her campaign camp looks like it's being run by a bunch of clowns. Just from a PR perspective, this could not have come at a worse time. The collapse at the 9/11 memorial, the "basket of deplorables", and the mention of the Pepe meme on her official website. Right after a couple of muslim terror attacks, some evidence surfaces purporting that she tri…

On top of all of these what I found fascinating is the amount of blind luck bestowed upon Trump. The guy has swallowed a horseshoe.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by tomjakubowski » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 1:26 AM UTC

skylan_q wrote: post #72

kevhito wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was getting ready to point out that Hillary really has a large lead, even if the day-to-day talking heads insist on making this and every race/issue seem as if it is 50/50 split. Then I checked 538.com [1]: they have her at 60% chance of winning -- pretty strong lead and hardly a normal time to throw someone under the bus -- but those graphs should be terrifying team Hillary. [1] http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com…

Don't use that site for any insight. Nate Silver had Trump at a "1%" chance of winning the GOP primaries. He then admitted that he got the call wrong because he really didn't have any models and was just spitballing with friends. His accuracy in the previous general election was based on the fact that he had visibility into private polling (WAY more accurate) and other forecasters didn't.

> he had visibility into private polling

Could you elaborate? Is "private polling" the same as "internal polling," which is done by the campaigns? If so, my understanding was that the Romney camp's internal polls in 2012 turned out to be extremely inaccurate.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by maxerickson » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 1:26 AM UTC

jimmywanger wrote: post #74

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you help me understand your point of view?

It might be kind of silly, but I think that the US government has to do a lot of shady things to ensure that we have a high standard of living and more of our share of natural resources. Look up the origin of the term "banana republic" if you don't believe me. Or just look through how many things we did in South/Central America due to the doctrine of manifest destiny. So if we have to do something bad to ensure a ste…

The banality of evil and all that.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by akhilcacharya » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 1:27 AM UTC

brown9-2 wrote: post #87

jimmywanger wrote: post #26

The actual facts aside, this makes her appear far less electable, as her campaign camp looks like it's being run by a bunch of clowns. Just from a PR perspective, this could not have come at a worse time. The collapse at the 9/11 memorial, the "basket of deplorables", and the mention of the Pepe meme on her official website. Right after a couple of muslim terror attacks, some evidence surfaces purporting that she tri…

> and the mention of the Pepe meme on her official website mentioning a meme on her website is disqualifying?

It is if you're short-sighted enough to accept an anti-innovation candidate on a website about technology & entrepreneurship because you thought a explainer on a meme was inappropriate.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by leurfete » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 1:27 AM UTC

discodave wrote: post #77

jimmywanger wrote: post #26

The actual facts aside, this makes her appear far less electable, as her campaign camp looks like it's being run by a bunch of clowns. Just from a PR perspective, this could not have come at a worse time. The collapse at the 9/11 memorial, the "basket of deplorables", and the mention of the Pepe meme on her official website. Right after a couple of muslim terror attacks, some evidence surfaces purporting that she tri…

> The actual facts aside I happen to believe that facts are important in a Presidential race. Essentially your response is repeating talking points of the Trump campaign... which is OK, 1st amendment and all that but to pretend like you're making a constructive addition to the discussion / debate is folly. Right now America has a choice between Trump, a racist, mysoginist demagogue who has never held a public office…

"a racist, mysoginist[sic] demagogue"

"Hillary may have issues but she is also possibly the most experienced presidential candidate of the last couple of decades."

s/Trump/Clinton/ and your statement: "Essentially your response is repeating talking points of the Trump campaign."

serves as a valid critique of your own response.

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Qualified for not, Clinton's corruption has been confirmed beyond any reasonable doubt over the course of many leaks and scandals. Democrats who continue to support her are just as blindly partisan as Republicans.

The whole system is broken. I won't be voting for anyone.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by PKop » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 1:28 AM UTC

jimmywanger wrote: post #74

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you help me understand your point of view?

It might be kind of silly, but I think that the US government has to do a lot of shady things to ensure that we have a high standard of living and more of our share of natural resources. Look up the origin of the term "banana republic" if you don't believe me. Or just look through how many things we did in South/Central America due to the doctrine of manifest destiny. So if we have to do something bad to ensure a ste…

That's shadiness for the country's benefit you're describing, not shadiness for personal benefit to avoid criminal prosecution so you can get elected president... Shadiness to cover the tracks of previous shadiness to hide your own emails from FOIA requests.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by int_19h » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 1:28 AM UTC

mindcrime wrote: post #44

takeda wrote: post #40

And she still will be elected, because this year we had to have joke candidates on both sides. I guess it's probably the best time to vote 3rd party.

I honestly can't understand how anybody is considering voting for Clinton or Trump. If this world was anything close to reasonable, Gary Johnson would win in a landslide. shrug

Realistically, given how little exposure third party candidates get, there's no chance of any third party winning this year. Most voters don't even know they're running.

Thus, it becomes a choice of 1) making a symbolic vote for a third party to "show them", 2) helping Clinton win, and 3) helping Trump win.

Given the potential outcomes of Trump vs Clinton, a lot of people believe (rightly, IMO) that this electoral cycle is not a good time to make symbolic gestures or long-term strategic voting games. Too much is at stake. Status quo sucks, but is still infinitely better than the alternative.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by exception_e » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 1:29 AM UTC

takeda wrote: post #40

And she still will be elected, because this year we had to have joke candidates on both sides. I guess it's probably the best time to vote 3rd party.

I like Johnson (I agree with him about 70% of the time and think he has good character). There's no way he has a chance now that he wasn't included in the debates.

Effectively, there is no 3rd party this year :(

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by manachar » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 1:29 AM UTC

mhomde wrote: post #35

danso wrote: post #2

The r/conspiracy thread where things unfolded: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/53fw9x/bleachbi... One of several archived copies of the r/exchangeserver thread, "Remove or replace to/from address on archived emails?" (the user stonetear deleted his account during the r/conspiracy thread): http://archive.is/FXcao

Just when you thought this election couldn't get any weirder... there's a major scoop about Clinton on r/conspiracy

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by PKop » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 1:30 AM UTC

You're literally repeating clinton talking points. Do you think you're contributing to the discussion amongst people that in no way believe any of the garbage you just wrote?