Oracle is gunning for AWS with new infrastructure offering
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Oracle is gunning for AWS with new infrastructure offering
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Re: Oracle is gunning for AWS with new infrastructure offering
#2This must be what the nebula team was a used for.
Re: Oracle is gunning for AWS with new infrastructure offering
#3> Ellison showed off a new Oracle Dense Cloud IO bare metal cloud server offering that will provide developers with 36 CPU cores, 512GB of D-RAM, and 28.8TB of SSD storage.
AWS isn't merely about the compute. EC2 is just part of a larger ecosystem of infrastructure services that has been built out by amazon over the past 10 years. If Oracle thinks they can beat that, then more power to them but I'm not quite convinced.
I'm happy that there's more competition but Oracle's offering seems more like empty words rather than concrete competition.
Maybe they'll now stop pouring resources into the Google lawsuit and actually pursue building new useful products.
Re: Oracle is gunning for AWS with new infrastructure offering
#4Based on this article alone, it sounds like Oracle is gunning for lift-and-shift of existing solutions into this bare-metal "cloud", positioning themselves more as an MSP than a true cloud provider. Is my read wrong here?
Re: Oracle is gunning for AWS with new infrastructure offering
#5> Ellison showed off a new Oracle Dense Cloud IO bare metal cloud server offering that will provide developers with 36 CPU cores, 512GB of D-RAM, and 28.8TB of SSD storage. AWS isn't merely about the compute. EC2 is just part of a larger ecosystem of infrastructure services that has been built out by amazon over the past 10 years. If Oracle thinks they can beat that, then more power to them but I'm not quite convince…
Indeed, nothing in the press release suggests any kind of innovation. Initially, it sounds a lot cheaper than AWS - but the only pricing given is per core, nothing about RAM, network, storage, etc.
Re: Oracle is gunning for AWS with new infrastructure offering
#6Oracle is not going to win, not matter what they do. Oracle is built on selling costly products and services versus operating in a low margin environment.
1.) Amazon has a much higher bar for hiring talent, than Oracle does.
2.) Amazon is internally use to being frugal, and so pricing wars are not going to hurt them. Oracle is use to charging a arm and a leg for their products.
3.) Amazon shareholders are already use to the company not being profitable, where as Oracle shareholders are not.
Re: Oracle is gunning for AWS with new infrastructure offering
#7This must be what the nebula team was a used for.
Nimbula, yes. It's so very bad. Oracle's IaaS cloud is a Potemkin village.
Re: Oracle is gunning for AWS with new infrastructure offering
#8Oracle is not going to win, not matter what they do. Oracle is built on selling costly products and services versus operating in a low margin environment. 1.) Amazon has a much higher bar for hiring talent, than Oracle does. 2.) Amazon is internally use to being frugal, and so pricing wars are not going to hurt them. Oracle is use to charging a arm and a leg for their products. 3.) Amazon shareholders are already use…
What customers are actually actively seeking to have a closer relationship with Oracle?
I knew some Oracle engineers back in the day. They were sharp. I hope they made their millions and got the heck out of that place.
Re: Oracle is gunning for AWS with new infrastructure offering
#9> Ellison showed off a new Oracle Dense Cloud IO bare metal cloud server offering that will provide developers with 36 CPU cores, 512GB of D-RAM, and 28.8TB of SSD storage. AWS isn't merely about the compute. EC2 is just part of a larger ecosystem of infrastructure services that has been built out by amazon over the past 10 years. If Oracle thinks they can beat that, then more power to them but I'm not quite convince…
Bare IaaS still has its place for now, and at that point the major factors are hardware, uptime/reliability, and cost. Lots of companies either can't utilize SaaS/PaaS offerings from most cloud providers (regulatory requirements those providers don't comply with), or just have legacy products that aren't near EOL yet.
Re: Oracle is gunning for AWS with new infrastructure offering
#10Based on this article alone, it sounds like Oracle is gunning for lift-and-shift of existing solutions into this bare-metal "cloud", positioning themselves more as an MSP than a true cloud provider. Is my read wrong here?
thats what I'm thinking, at least for now.
from elsewhere:
> Bare IaaS still has its place for now, and at that point the major factors are hardware, uptime/reliability, and cost. Lots of companies either can't utilize SaaS/PaaS offerings from most cloud providers (regulatory requirements those providers don't comply with, etc...), or just have legacy products that aren't near EOL yet.