iTunes will never work well • Hacker News Board

Re: iTunes will never work well

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Post by neotek » Mon, Sep 19, 2016, 1:31 PM UTC

baldfat wrote: post #285

novaleaf wrote: post #282

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(My Opinion): This is a business decision. The user is a captive audience (no alternatives available), so Apple has a disincentive to optimize anything other than profit generators. And it's not just Apple. In Google Play, try housekeeping your app collection, or re-install a specific app on a new device. It's technically possible, but the more apps you have installed in the past, the harder it gets.

(My Opinion) All of Apple's 40,000 foot view is walled garden. iTunes, DRM Wireless Headphones etc..

What DRM wireless headphones?

Re: iTunes will never work well

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Post by jheriko » Mon, Sep 19, 2016, 1:36 PM UTC

Razengan wrote: post #46

jheriko wrote: post #11

i don't understand how apple have a reputation for good ui... all of their stuff is terrible. the main problem: zero discoverablity - i need to google how to do things, then get some snotty fanboy answer about how easy and obvious it is, but there is literally no way to infer the functionality from the design. they do love to steal context too... and interrupt your flow... ... i could go on and on, but having zero-di…

> all of their stuff is terrible. As a PC-only user since the days of DOS up till Windows 8, and having used Windows 10 after jumping ship to Macs a few hours ago, macOS has demonstrably more discoverability than Windows. One example: Just click on the Help menu, in any app, and type something like "show" or "find" or any other operation, and it will show you all the menu items which have that word in their name. Tha…

i would say that i think recent windows 8/10 are considerably worse than OS X - they approach iOS levels of undiscoverability.

maybe i am overstating it a bit - maybe unforgivable sounds really bad, but what i find it hard to believe that most people couldn't trivially improve on the more confusing or poorly implemented UI elements.

Re: iTunes will never work well

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Post by knodi123 » Mon, Sep 19, 2016, 1:42 PM UTC

majewsky wrote: post #204

labster wrote: post #164

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fdupes is your friend in cases like these — it finds duplicate files fast. As usual, the CLI tools are much better at solving problems than a terrible GUI like iTunes.

You don't even need a separate tool for that: find -type f -name \*.mp3 -exec md5sum {} + \ | uniq -dDw 32

The problem isn't duplicate files, it's that iTunes has an internal list of songs, and it allows the same file to appear in the list twice. I can manage a directory of files, I just can't manage iTunes' indexing of them.

I understand why you would have assumed this was a file issue, though, because the real problem is the most idiotically stupid thing ever.

Re: iTunes will never work well

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Post by jjawssd » Mon, Sep 19, 2016, 1:42 PM UTC

neotek wrote: post #291

baldfat wrote: post #285

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(My Opinion) All of Apple's 40,000 foot view is walled garden. iTunes, DRM Wireless Headphones etc..

What DRM wireless headphones?

No more analog-only headphones on the new iPhone. DRM capable digital to analog adapters coming in 3...2...1...

Re: iTunes will never work well

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Post by jharohit » Mon, Sep 19, 2016, 1:42 PM UTC

There never was and never will be a better music player than Winamp! #WinampSkins

Re: iTunes will never work well

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Post by jjawssd » Mon, Sep 19, 2016, 1:43 PM UTC

TorKlingberg wrote: post #239

tomasandrle wrote: post #219

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Sure. Hopefuly "a bunch" could be reduced to just two: Apple Music client and iPhone sync app. The rest would be removed without a replacement (on Windows). The headphone jack removal shows that Apple is willing to make people angry about some things for a long term benefit and iTunes is imho a good candidate for the next "act of courage", heh.

Could they drop the iPhone sync app completely? These days the iPhone should be able to do all the syncing it needs directly against the internet.

My ISP limits my internet usage to 5 GB a month unless I pay a lot more money (Verizon Wireless)

Re: iTunes will never work well

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Post by gls2ro » Mon, Sep 19, 2016, 1:44 PM UTC

kovrik wrote: post #172

fpgeek wrote: post #110

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I could be wrong, but my impression is kovrik wants to back up the iPod to the Time Capsule directly. In other words, the backup shouldn't go through the MacBook at all (or, speculating based on my experience, kovrik wants to avoid storing the entire iPod backup on the MacBook as a step in the process).

Yes. That is what I mean. My wife and I both have 6 Apple devices, 624GB in total (well, yes, they are not full yet, but still) + 1 2TB AirPort Time Capsule, which could store all these GBs easily. All devices (except for old iPod) have WiFi and can connect to the capsule. Do you know how I transferred my photos to the capsule last time? I had to: 1) Connect iPhone to Macbook (via USB cable, not wifi) 2) Run shitty P…

Another solution (I'm using it with Apple devices but it might work with other type of hw) could be to use Image Capture app included in macOS/OS X which lets you access the photos directly and exporta them to a folder of your choice.

Edit: it also allows to delete them directly after import

Re: iTunes will never work well

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Post by M_Grey » Mon, Sep 19, 2016, 1:45 PM UTC

zamalek wrote: post #131

M_Grey wrote: post #16

This is why I still use Winamp, and now more and more, Plex.

Although I'm a proud owner of a Winamp license, I've been using AIMP over the past year or so. It's blatantly, if not purposefully, a Winamp clone but has a few excellent innovations of its own and is frequently updated. I strongly recommend it for any Winamp fans.

Thank you! I just checked it out, and as a long-time Winamp user (I mean... since there was first a Winamp) I see exactly what you mean and I love it.

Re: iTunes will never work well

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Post by striking » Mon, Sep 19, 2016, 1:46 PM UTC

coldpie wrote: post #286

striking wrote: post #24

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At least on my OnePlus phone, you can double-tap the screen and drag up or down to zoom in or out, like a scroll wheel. It's better than buttons, in my humble opinion.

Off topic, I know, but which OnePlus do you have? Do you like it? I'm considering the OnePlus 3 to replace my 2013 Moto X.

I have the OnePlus One still, actually. It's been in water and dropped on the ground, and somehow is still going strong. For $300, this is the best phone I have ever had, even ignoring the 64GB storage and out of the box rootability.

I've looked at the OnePlus 3, and it seems like a worthy successor. LinusTechTips on YouTube did a review on it. I'd recommend checking it out.

Re: iTunes will never work well

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Post by optimuspaul » Mon, Sep 19, 2016, 1:50 PM UTC

I have never understood why there is so much hate for iTunes. I think it's fine. It does everything I need it to and probably more. Why put so much energy into debasing something?