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Re: iTunes will never work well

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Post by f4stjack »

yaegers wrote: post #175
f4stjack wrote: post #150

As far as I have used iTunes the only problem I see with it is trying to do EVERYTHING in a single package. It tries to be - music player - content manager (music & video) - sync manager - update manager - Apple Music client and these are the five things I can name on top of my head, without opening up the app. This is fine, but they are not honoring their boundaries. When I am listening to my music, don't mess me wi…

The problem is, they can never satify everybody. I bet you that if they ever split iTunes up in separate apps like you suggested there will also be a lot of people who dislike that approach and rant along the lines of "Why did they split it up? It was so convenient to have everything in one place. Now I have to open a multitude of apps" No matter how much sense that may make, there will be people like that. The quest…

Agreed. Satisfaction is not an objective commodity. But Apple Music really, definitively, needs its own app considering the problems it creates in people's iTunes libraries.

Re: iTunes will never work well

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Post by johansch »

strange_quark wrote: post #61
hhsnopek wrote: post #48

"Spotify" just switch now and never look back

Spotify has just as bad if not worse UX as iTunes/Apple Music. Spotify kept taking away useful features from their desktop app and promised to return them, but never did, even years later. Plus, I don't need to run another instance of Chrome and Adobe Flash which constantly consumes 5% of my CPU and a few hundred MB of RAM just to listen to some music. While still not perfect, I'm pretty happy with the newest release…

I think users like you are part of the reason iTunes is like it is. Never, ever, take away a feature. Never ever refactor the UI to simplify things.

Re: iTunes will never work well

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Post by Tempest1981 »

icebraining wrote: post #36
askafriend wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, even Google has terrible UI/UX these days. Just look at Google Maps or Gmail. Material design isn't that great for discoverability either.

What's wrong with Google Maps? I've just been watching a non-technical friend use it and the only thing that wasn't intuitive was adding an extra stop to her trip (and even then, she discovered it without needing to search for help).

Using Chrome on a 24" monitor, I get a 2" subwindow for Street View positioning (yellow guy). And it auto hides quickly. Maddening.

Re: iTunes will never work well

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Post by draugadrotten »

kovrik wrote: post #172
fpgeek wrote: post #110

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I could be wrong, but my impression is kovrik wants to back up the iPod to the Time Capsule directly. In other words, the backup shouldn't go through the MacBook at all (or, speculating based on my experience, kovrik wants to avoid storing the entire iPod backup on the MacBook as a step in the process).

Yes. That is what I mean. My wife and I both have 6 Apple devices, 624GB in total (well, yes, they are not full yet, but still) + 1 2TB AirPort Time Capsule, which could store all these GBs easily. All devices (except for old iPod) have WiFi and can connect to the capsule. Do you know how I transferred my photos to the capsule last time? I had to: 1) Connect iPhone to Macbook (via USB cable, not wifi) 2) Run shitty P…

> What I want is, for example, to press 'Transfer all pictures/music/whatever to Time Capsule' and just wait until it is done (via WiFi).

It's not an Apple product, but "Plex" can transfer your photos to your own harddrive/library if you buy the pro version. You can for example run the Plex server on your Mac or on a Raspberry Pie, and then let Plex synchronize your photos to your Capsule over wifi or 3G.

Re: iTunes will never work well

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Post by rangibaby »

masklinn wrote: post #140
kagamine wrote: post #132

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You had t press a modifier key to right click, but 2 button mouses have been sold with macs since 10.2 at least, and 10.2 was available in 2001/2.

> You had t press a modifier key to right click Control, which still works incidentally.

You still need to enable right click from a menu for Apple-brand mice and trackpads. Otherwise ctrl+click is still the only way

Re: iTunes will never work well

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Post by rangibaby »

masklinn wrote: post #140
kagamine wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You had t press a modifier key to right click, but 2 button mouses have been sold with macs since 10.2 at least, and 10.2 was available in 2001/2.

> You had t press a modifier key to right click Control, which still works incidentally.

You still need to enable right click from a menu for Apple-brand mice and trackpads. Otherwise ctrl+click is still the only way

Re: iTunes will never work well

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Post by otabdeveloper1 »

jheriko wrote: post #11

i don't understand how apple have a reputation for good ui... all of their stuff is terrible. the main problem: zero discoverablity - i need to google how to do things, then get some snotty fanboy answer about how easy and obvious it is, but there is literally no way to infer the functionality from the design. they do love to steal context too... and interrupt your flow... ... i could go on and on, but having zero-di…

> i don't understand how apple have a reputation for good ui...

They don't. Apple is the only tech company that markets their products like fashion accessories.

That's not a bad thing: in 2016 we're living squarely in the age of 'wearable computers'.

The "good UI" stuff is just rationalization, however.

Re: iTunes will never work well

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Post by aparadja »

thenewwazoo wrote: post #127
twhb wrote: post #122

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Speaking of, Apple is to blame for the absolute worst case of discoverability I've ever encountered: getting the iOS App Store app to list all apps labeled "Essentials". Dug around, couldn't find it. Googled it, found a few forum threads where everybody concluded it couldn't be done. Went into an Apple store, gave an employee a few minutes to figure it out, and he gave up. And yet, it's possible. Rather than just tel…

Wow. That was about five minutes of hunting, and I actually seriously considered the possibility that your comment was a troll. That was impressively unexpected.

Could you share the solution? I couldn't figure it out. Searching for "essentials" was the closest I got.

Re: iTunes will never work well

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Post by rsync »

jakobegger wrote: post #180
rsync wrote: post #173

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"i don't understand how apple have a reputation for good ui... all of their stuff is terrible." All you need to know about Apple UI is this: Sometimes you click the green (maximize) button and the window gets smaller .

Yeah, that's because it's not a maximise button. It's the button that adjusts the window size to the content size. At least, that's what it used to be. They changed the default behavior to 'fullscreen' because all the people coming from Windows thought that's what the button should do...

"It's the button that adjusts the window size to the content size."

Which is just so, so wrong. Imagine how much mouse-mouse-mousing around (and time wasted) that kind of organization produces.

Things I wish Steve Jobs had said:

"If you're using the mouse, you're doing it wrong"

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