Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

hothardware.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

91–100 of 308 posts

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

#91

Post by flyinghamster »

froh42 wrote: post #71

Such behaviour is the reason I threw out a perfectly working HP OfficeJet one day and will never buy a single HP printer in my life. In the OfficeJet in question I only used genuine cartridges, but every few year it would stop receiving black and white faxes because (the nearly full) color cartidge was passing its expiry date - forcing me to throw away the full color cartridge and buying a new one.

Join the club. At my office we had an OfficeJet, and it "expired" a printhead. It won't even allow you to SCAN unless the printhead is replaced.

No more HP for me. Never again.

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

#92

Post by bArray »

imaginenore wrote: post #62
bArray wrote: post #59

I think this calls for a cheap open source printer to be made. Nothing complex is needed initially, just black and white with low running costs. In reality, any liquid that stains the paper of a given consistency should be fine. It shouldn't be costing this much to replace ink.

There are cheap black and white printers with very low running costs. Laser printers. There have been attempts at open sourcing inkjet printers: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:8542 (2011)

That open source one is slow and low-res, I'm sure we can do better than that. The alternative to close-source, high-cost shouldn't be crap and slow.

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

#93

Post by jpna66dd »

tluyben2 wrote: post #50

Not trolling, but why do you use printers? I haven't used paper for 5 odd years now. The gov here (Spain) gives me tons of paper; I photograph it and then leave it and have them print it out when needed. Outside that I have not needed paper since the ipad. Why do other people?

Doing business: get paperwork, print paperwork, sign it, scan it, email it back.

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

#94

Post by bArray »

PieterH wrote: post #84
bArray wrote: post #59

I think this calls for a cheap open source printer to be made. Nothing complex is needed initially, just black and white with low running costs. In reality, any liquid that stains the paper of a given consistency should be fine. It shouldn't be costing this much to replace ink.

All you need to do is buy from a business that doesn't depend on fraud. Samsung make very nice and cheap black & white laser printers. I've bought two over the last few years, around $70. I see one on Amazon for $75 that has wifi printing as well), comes with a cartridge that lasted me 2-3 years and some thousands of pages, and replacement cartridges are $60 for branded ones, less than half that for generics. The pri…

The cost of the ink should in theory be next to nothing. You can buy ink from our local pound shop and mess around with drilling holes in your cartridges and hoping nothing goes wrong.

A thousand pages in the UK could cost (by my estimates) about £5 to print. A cheap pack of 500 sheets is £2 and a large bottle of ink is £1.

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

#97

Post by ptaipale »

tluyben2 wrote: post #50

Not trolling, but why do you use printers? I haven't used paper for 5 odd years now. The gov here (Spain) gives me tons of paper; I photograph it and then leave it and have them print it out when needed. Outside that I have not needed paper since the ipad. Why do other people?

Lots of places (authorities etc) require you to leave a physical paper that is signed and that they can put in a folder and store in an archive.

Last time I needed this was yesterday, the local football association (yes soccer) requires the player list to be signed and given to referee before match. I make the list and usually print three copies: one for the referee, one for the opponent team and one for our own coach to check against players.

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

#98

Post by ajdlinux »

tluyben2 wrote: post #50

Not trolling, but why do you use printers? I haven't used paper for 5 odd years now. The gov here (Spain) gives me tons of paper; I photograph it and then leave it and have them print it out when needed. Outside that I have not needed paper since the ipad. Why do other people?

Some people prefer to read certain types of documents on paper. At work I've occasionally printed out slabs of reference material so I can go review it with a pen at the cafe across the road.

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

#100

Post by auxym »

froh42 wrote: post #71

Such behaviour is the reason I threw out a perfectly working HP OfficeJet one day and will never buy a single HP printer in my life. In the OfficeJet in question I only used genuine cartridges, but every few year it would stop receiving black and white faxes because (the nearly full) color cartidge was passing its expiry date - forcing me to throw away the full color cartridge and buying a new one.

FWIW I had an epson printer that refused to print B&W documents until I replaced the cyan cartridge.

Fixed the problem temporarily by getting cheap chinese cartridge off ebay, but Epson is now very much on my boycott list.

Post reply on HN