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HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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Such behaviour is the reason I threw out a perfectly working HP OfficeJet one day and will never buy a single HP printer in my life.

In the OfficeJet in question I only used genuine cartridges, but every few year it would stop receiving black and white faxes because (the nearly full) color cartidge was passing its expiry date - forcing me to throw away the full color cartridge and buying a new one.

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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Laser OKI color printer isn't different. Each toner (CMYK) has a life based on printed pages and stop working even if there's toner inside. No third part supplier, because the printer won't recognize it. And it's useless torefill it if you don't change some chip in each toner. And then the fusor will also stop after some number of pages, no matter if the quality was still good. To replace it you spend more than you p…

Which OKI do you have? Since I'm running my C301dn on 3rd party toners for awhile now.

Oki C110.

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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Not sure if it was a time bomb, but HP does have an "auto update" feature that could seem like a time bomb.

We got nailed by this with our HP 8610. Were using 3rd party cartridges with much success for months. Last week my wife had a huge (for us) print job and encountered an annoying bug (prints blank sheets every other print). Updated the firmware hoping it would fix the problem. Next thing we know, cartridge error.

Spent 3-4 hours researching how to downgrade firmware with no luck.

No mentioned of new Sept 13 firmware on any HP driver website that I found.

3rd party is shipping us new cartridges for free, but it will be 2 weeks. Had to buy another printer.

Die in a fire HP.

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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Does this also happens with laser toner cartridges ? I really have no idea why people even buy those inkjet printers anymore, price per page is lower with laser printers and prices even for a color laser are in sub 200€$ range.

Laser sucks for printing photos.

Yeah but if you want documents and shelf life (toner doesn't dry out in a year) then lasers might be better for you.

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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Liberate yourself from softwares/products like this! We used to own the stuff we paid for! Now it's like you pay to be the product. I think this problem is worse in software. Checkout fsf.org

Stallman was right...

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

#77

Are there any open hardware printers in the making? I seem to recall some open hardware cell phone projects. No reason a similar effort couldn't be directed towards making an open printer, is there? Also, it might not even require making a full open hardware printer, but just some key circuitry and maybe some drivers, right?

HP and others have a lot of patents in that space with an army of lawyers to defend them unfortunately. It would have to avoid using anything coming close to these patents...

Patent attorney here. I used to do a lot of patents for the printer cartridges. The printer companies use the "give away the razor, make money on the razor blades" business model. The make very little on the printer, and make a killing on the cartridges. Thus, they spend a lot of effort trying to keep generic cartridges out of the market.

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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post #71

Such behaviour is the reason I threw out a perfectly working HP OfficeJet one day and will never buy a single HP printer in my life. In the OfficeJet in question I only used genuine cartridges, but every few year it would stop receiving black and white faxes because (the nearly full) color cartidge was passing its expiry date - forcing me to throw away the full color cartridge and buying a new one.

That is so corrupt. HP deserve a total boycott.

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

#79
As an aside, does anyone remember the last time they were happy with ANY HP product? Everytime I see that logo I get chills knowing what a pain in the ass it's going to be.

Edit: I am specifically thinking about HPSM, and HPNA here.

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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As an aside, does anyone remember the last time they were happy with ANY HP product? Everytime I see that logo I get chills knowing what a pain in the ass it's going to be. Edit: I am specifically thinking about HPSM, and HPNA here.

HP48?
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