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When Nintendo got rid of the headphone jack

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Re: When Nintendo got rid of the headphone jack

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

kalleboo wrote: post #16
mikeash wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Other accessory manufacturers can produce Lightning headphones (what the new iPhone uses, and older ones can use them too) and they are starting to. A quick search reveals a decent selection, although of course tiny in comparison to what's out there with the standard connector. Some of them are in stock right now, which implies that Apple gave them information in advance. A royalty-free open standard probably isn't h…

There were some early Lightning headphones available even before the iPhone 7 announcement. Here are some from 2014: http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/10/6130587/fidelio-m2l-lightn...

I've been using the Kozoy Astrapi. A portable amp/DAC that plugs straight into the lightning port like the Apple dongle.

Re: When Nintendo got rid of the headphone jack

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Post by chris_wot »

Kiro wrote: post #56
chris_wot wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure others use the iPhone for things other than voice calls, but with 1 billion iPhones sold even a million people who don't make voice calls is still a tiny fraction of the market. Most people are still using their phone to make phone calls, even if you and others are not.

Yes, people are using their phones to make phone calls but I still don't think it's in the top 5. That's what this discussion is about.

Pew Research Center said the following in 2015:

Fully 97% of smartphone owners used text messaging at least once over the course of the study period, making it the most widely-used basic feature or app; it is also the feature that is used most frequently, as the smartphone owners in this study reported having used text messaging in the past hour in an average of seven surveys (out of a maximum total of 14 across the one-week study period). Younger smartphone owners are especially avid users of text messaging, but this group has by no means abandoned voice calls — 93% of smartphone owners ages 18-29 used voice or video calling on at least one occasion during the study period, and reported doing so in an average of 3.9 surveys.

http://www.pewinternet.org/2015/04/01/us-smartphone-use-in-2...

Re: When Nintendo got rid of the headphone jack

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Post by thomasdereyck »

gambiting wrote: post #55
shasheene wrote: post #12

This reminds me of the "feature phone" era in the early 2000s, where every phone had a proprietary charging port, proprietary headphone jack and the removable memory interface was not yet standardized on MicroSD. Thankfully European Union pushed for MicroUSB standardization. While vendors (like Apple) can still get around it by bundling an adapter in European markets, it was enough to push the entire industry to stan…

>>While vendors (like Apple) can still get around it by bundling an adapter in European markets Apple most definitely does not bundle an adapter in European markets.

What? Yes they do! I unpack dozens of iPhones and Macs at work each year and a charger is included every time. Now, I think this just might be a terminology mix-up as a charger is technically not an "adapter", but e.g. where I live the words are often both used for a charger. I suspect that this is what the parent comment meant.

Re: When Nintendo got rid of the headphone jack

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Post by gm-conspiracy »

xuki wrote: post #21
shasheene wrote: post #12

This reminds me of the "feature phone" era in the early 2000s, where every phone had a proprietary charging port, proprietary headphone jack and the removable memory interface was not yet standardized on MicroSD. Thankfully European Union pushed for MicroUSB standardization. While vendors (like Apple) can still get around it by bundling an adapter in European markets, it was enough to push the entire industry to stan…

They have 2 MegSafe versions in 10 years (MegSafe was introduced in 2006), the 2nd one was necessary to make slimmer laptops. Same thing with 30-pin connector and lightning. Lightning was before USB-C and it's superior to the old 30-pin connector. Btw, MegSafe is one of the best thing about MacBooks, I'm actually sad they're not using it in the new MacBook.

Is an iPhone 5 less thick than an iPhone 4S? It seems the chassis is the same thickness, but the screen/touch assembly was recessed.

Switching to lightning freed up width, but it appears to me there was not much reduction in height.

I actually see the Magsafe 2 is about 2/3 height of the original Magsafe connector.

Re: When Nintendo got rid of the headphone jack

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Post by arm »

justinlardinois wrote: post #40
shasheene wrote: post #12

This reminds me of the "feature phone" era in the early 2000s, where every phone had a proprietary charging port, proprietary headphone jack and the removable memory interface was not yet standardized on MicroSD. Thankfully European Union pushed for MicroUSB standardization. While vendors (like Apple) can still get around it by bundling an adapter in European markets, it was enough to push the entire industry to stan…

> the original GBA used a certain proprietary charging port I wouldn't call a AA battery compartment a "proprietary charging port" :)

Yeah, the original Game Boy Advance doesn’t actually have a charging port on it in the first place!

Unlike the Game Boys that came before it, the Game Boy Advance didn’t have a barrel connector on it to connect an AC adapter for powering it without batteries. Due to that, Nintendo made an accessory¹²³ for the Game Boy Advance that plugged into the battery compartment (which completely replaced the battery cover). It had a proprietary port on it which you would use to plug in an AC adapter that would then plug into a wall outlet and power (not charge) the Game Boy Advance. I believe that may be what the parent poster was referring to.

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¹ — https://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/gameboyadvance/hoo...

² — https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00005B8G0

³ — http://ign.com/articles/2001/09/30/game-boy-advance-ac-adapt...

Re: When Nintendo got rid of the headphone jack

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Post by gm-conspiracy »

pjc50 wrote: post #48
helthanatos wrote: post #2

A game system (worth around $100) that was not meant to have a multimedia experience vs something that has been a multimedia experience that costs around $850 (the only one I would buy)... Is the comparison a joke? Because they also omitted reference to more comparable products that deleted the jack.

"multimedia experience" is such a 90s phrase. Encarta on win95 was a "multimedia experience".

What MPC level?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimedia_PC

Re: When Nintendo got rid of the headphone jack

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Post by clw8 »

byuu wrote: post #23

Bandai did the same with the Wonderswan devices, which competed against the Game Boy Color and Advance. The device was only released in Japan around '98 - '01. And so now, if you want to use headphones with it (and you do; as not only do you get stereo instead of monaural sound; you get an extra channel of audio so you'll be missing certain sound effects in some games without them!), you get to buy one of these price…

Are those the cables that come stock? If so I've got some Ebay'ing to do...
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