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Re: Emacs 25.1 released

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Post by kaushalmodi »

gkya wrote: post #10

Emacs VC mode has a bug where all listed files in the vc-dir buffer are shown with their basenames for at least Git and CVS repositories, and for CVS it renders the mode unusable. I made a patch but I guess they're waiting my paperwork (copyright assignment) to arrive so it couldn't make it for this release. Here is the patch: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=24082 for whoever uses vc-git and vc-cvs. It'…

But please get through with the paperwork. That way your patch can be applied to the master branch, and it will be available in emacs 25.2.

Re: Emacs 25.1 released

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Koshkin wrote: post #16

Having been using emacs on and off, both on Windows and Linux, and having found it being useful on some occasions, I somehow can't help thinking of it as more of a historical artifact than a toolset I would want to use on a daily basis. Being a very powerful personal computing environment and kinda fun to use, to me emacs still falls short in the ways that, for instance, UNIX command line interface with its simple si…

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Re: Emacs 25.1 released

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Post by e40 »

pvdebbe wrote: post #28
aban wrote: post #2

Great news and congrats to everyone involved! Among the highlights of this release is Xwidgets, which allows embedding GTK+ widgets inside Emacs buffers. One such widget is WebKitGTK+, a full-featured port of WebKit for use in GTK+ apps. As a consequence of this you can now browse the internet and maybe watch some YouTube inside Emacs [0]. [0]: https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/4srze9/watching_yout...

I wonder if those widgets require GTK support in Emacs. I compile a plain X support for my emacs only, because with GTK it doesn't stay up for months without crashing. I had an emacs server with 180 day uptime the other day. Maybe on my work machine that is Windows anyway, I can try this out. :>

Yes, it does. Gtk3.

Re: Emacs 25.1 released

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Post by phillord »

Koshkin wrote: post #16

Having been using emacs on and off, both on Windows and Linux, and having found it being useful on some occasions, I somehow can't help thinking of it as more of a historical artifact than a toolset I would want to use on a daily basis. Being a very powerful personal computing environment and kinda fun to use, to me emacs still falls short in the ways that, for instance, UNIX command line interface with its simple si…

There are nice tools like "which-key" which massively reduce the work of remembering shortcuts. They are, incidentally, only shortcuts. The menus work as well.

Re: Emacs 25.1 released

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Post by copperx »

tlikonen wrote: post #6

Character folding in searches is likely useful: simple letters like "a" also match "á", "à", "ä"; quote char " also matches “ and ” and so on. (setq search-default-mode #'char-fold-to-regexp)

That's awesome.

Re: Emacs 25.1 released

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Post by rurban »

dleslie wrote: post #24

Emacs being able to load shared/dynamic libraries is huge; it means we'll be able to load so files from a user's home directory, or the standard lib paths, and use foreign functions to extend Emacs. And with XWidgets... Well, now you could write an OpenGL game that uses an OpenAL audio layer and displays in an Emacs frame, all in elisp. Because, why not?

Interesting, I wrote such an emacs FFI about 15 years ago, but RMS was fundamentally opposed to it. Gtk-emacs was then based on a smaller scale FFI, but a more generic exposed FFI was still devilish. I wanted to use a proper AutoLISP environment then.

Re: Emacs 25.1 released

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Post by copperx »

agumonkey wrote: post #12

btw, windows binary build https://sourceforge.net/projects/emacsbinw64/files/release/ (from 2h ago)

Is Emacs all that useful on Windows where even the most basic Unix commands aren't available? Is M-x grep even available?

Or does Emacs require a Cygwin / Ubuntu Subsystem?

Re: Emacs 25.1 released

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Post by [deleted] »

e40 wrote: post #33
pvdebbe wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if those widgets require GTK support in Emacs. I compile a plain X support for my emacs only, because with GTK it doesn't stay up for months without crashing. I had an emacs server with 180 day uptime the other day. Maybe on my work machine that is Windows anyway, I can try this out. :>

Yes, it does. Gtk3.

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Re: Emacs 25.1 released

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Post by ww520 »

phillord wrote: post #34
Koshkin wrote: post #16

Having been using emacs on and off, both on Windows and Linux, and having found it being useful on some occasions, I somehow can't help thinking of it as more of a historical artifact than a toolset I would want to use on a daily basis. Being a very powerful personal computing environment and kinda fun to use, to me emacs still falls short in the ways that, for instance, UNIX command line interface with its simple si…

There are nice tools like "which-key" which massively reduce the work of remembering shortcuts. They are, incidentally, only shortcuts. The menus work as well.

That's a great tool. Thanks.

Re: Emacs 25.1 released

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Post by agumonkey »

copperx wrote: post #37
agumonkey wrote: post #12

btw, windows binary build https://sourceforge.net/projects/emacsbinw64/files/release/ (from 2h ago)

Is Emacs all that useful on Windows where even the most basic Unix commands aren't available? Is M-x grep even available? Or does Emacs require a Cygwin / Ubuntu Subsystem?

Depends, if you need OS interaction you'll need a posix-like subsystem indeed[1]. But first I write mostly lisp (ml, js and python) and I just can't live without paredit and second emacs extensibility is a drug to me now. Everytime I have to use anything else I feel crippled.

[1] I installed msys2 which is less crufty than cygwin.

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