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Re: "This is Tayo. He's 11 and showed me a game he built called Spike Rush"

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Great to see Mark promoting talent from Nigeria. Africa is yet to untap the potential of its people, and Nigeria will play a central role.

Agreed. That's the central tenant of Andela [1]. I just got back from Kenya and was blown away by how talented the engineers were. Going to Nigeria next month and can't wait to compare and see what Zuck was seeing.

1. http://andela.com

Re: "This is Tayo. He's 11 and showed me a game he built called Spike Rush"

#12

Great to see Mark promoting talent from Nigeria. Africa is yet to untap the potential of its people, and Nigeria will play a central role.

Agreed. That's the central tenant of Andela [1]. I just got back from Kenya and was blown away by how talented the engineers were. Going to Nigeria next month and can't wait to compare and see what Zuck was seeing. 1. http://andela.com

Can you elaborate what made them talented?

Re: "This is Tayo. He's 11 and showed me a game he built called Spike Rush"

#13

Maybe I'm too much of a pessimist/cynic, but while I certainly love that Zuck is doing things like this, I hope he's not just trying to butter Nigeria up to the free basics anti-open-internet bullshit that he tried to pull on India. Nigeria and Africa are definitely the next big frontiers for the internet, and I honestly doubt that whatever facebook's got planned is mutually beneficial enough. Though if FB decides to…

I don't think you're overly pessimistic in this at all. Facebook does what's good for Facebook. So does Mark Zuckerberg.

I can't stand this mentality. Why do people think that because someone is a shareholder/CEO in a company, all their deeds from that point on are purely self-interest?

Same shit happened when he pledged 99% of his stock charitable causes. Everyone was up in arms about how the organization was an LLC instead of a charity, claiming he did it purely for the tax benefits, despite that being bullshit.

I guess at the end of the day, once you are a billionaire for creating a successful company, everything you do is based entirely on greed. I'm sure we can come up with a self-interest reason Bill Gates is spending hundreds of millions eradicating malaria too.

Re: "This is Tayo. He's 11 and showed me a game he built called Spike Rush"

#14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think you're overly pessimistic in this at all. Facebook does what's good for Facebook. So does Mark Zuckerberg.

I can't stand this mentality. Why do people think that because someone is a shareholder/CEO in a company, all their deeds from that point on are purely self-interest? Same shit happened when he pledged 99% of his stock charitable causes. Everyone was up in arms about how the organization was an LLC instead of a charity, claiming he did it purely for the tax benefits, despite that being bullshit. I guess at the end of…

You assume a generalization I did not make.

Re: "This is Tayo. He's 11 and showed me a game he built called Spike Rush"

#15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think you're overly pessimistic in this at all. Facebook does what's good for Facebook. So does Mark Zuckerberg.

I can't stand this mentality. Why do people think that because someone is a shareholder/CEO in a company, all their deeds from that point on are purely self-interest? Same shit happened when he pledged 99% of his stock charitable causes. Everyone was up in arms about how the organization was an LLC instead of a charity, claiming he did it purely for the tax benefits, despite that being bullshit. I guess at the end of…

Why do people think that because someone is a shareholder/CEO in a company, all their deeds from that point on are purely self-interest?

Depends on the CEO and company. The behavior of a company reflects the behavior of its CEO. Microsoft and Facebook both have a a history of bad behavior.

Re: "This is Tayo. He's 11 and showed me a game he built called Spike Rush"

#16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't stand this mentality. Why do people think that because someone is a shareholder/CEO in a company, all their deeds from that point on are purely self-interest? Same shit happened when he pledged 99% of his stock charitable causes. Everyone was up in arms about how the organization was an LLC instead of a charity, claiming he did it purely for the tax benefits, despite that being bullshit. I guess at the end of…

You assume a generalization I did not make.

You very clearly implied that in the context of this story, Mark Zuckerberg does what's best for Facebook.

Re: "This is Tayo. He's 11 and showed me a game he built called Spike Rush"

#17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't stand this mentality. Why do people think that because someone is a shareholder/CEO in a company, all their deeds from that point on are purely self-interest? Same shit happened when he pledged 99% of his stock charitable causes. Everyone was up in arms about how the organization was an LLC instead of a charity, claiming he did it purely for the tax benefits, despite that being bullshit. I guess at the end of…

Why do people think that because someone is a shareholder/CEO in a company, all their deeds from that point on are purely self-interest? Depends on the CEO and company. The behavior of a company reflects the behavior of its CEO. Microsoft and Facebook both have a a history of bad behavior.

"bad" is relative. The CEO's of the tobacco companies had a history of knowingly killing people. Microsoft was aggressively anti-competitive, Facebook was (and still is) very much opposed to privacy on the Internet.

A company is many cogs. The fact that Bill Gates was anti-competitive doesn't make him, the individual, a bad person. That's very clear from the work he's doing now. So assuming that all decisions stem from greed, from anyone, is a silly assumption.

Re: "This is Tayo. He's 11 and showed me a game he built called Spike Rush"

#18
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Facebook's transparent attempt to own the internet in Africa is scary, distasteful, but strangely tinged with inevitability due to Mark Zuckerberg's unstoppable hunger and relentless competence. I hope Africa is as savvy as the West (has belatedly become) to his self-serving PR stunts, and gives him an almighty neo-colonial kick in the butt.

Comparing a company to a colonial empire is a bit silly unless you're talking about the East India Company. I don't believe Facebook has its own warships yet.

Re: "This is Tayo. He's 11 and showed me a game he built called Spike Rush"

#19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think you're overly pessimistic in this at all. Facebook does what's good for Facebook. So does Mark Zuckerberg.

I can't stand this mentality. Why do people think that because someone is a shareholder/CEO in a company, all their deeds from that point on are purely self-interest? Same shit happened when he pledged 99% of his stock charitable causes. Everyone was up in arms about how the organization was an LLC instead of a charity, claiming he did it purely for the tax benefits, despite that being bullshit. I guess at the end of…

> I can't stand this mentality. Why do people think that because someone is a shareholder/CEO in a company, all their deeds from that point on are purely self-interest?

That's not exactly it, but I would like if you could show me an example of a CEO doing something publicly which would go against the interest of their company.

Re: "This is Tayo. He's 11 and showed me a game he built called Spike Rush"

#20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do people think that because someone is a shareholder/CEO in a company, all their deeds from that point on are purely self-interest? Depends on the CEO and company. The behavior of a company reflects the behavior of its CEO. Microsoft and Facebook both have a a history of bad behavior.

"bad" is relative. The CEO's of the tobacco companies had a history of knowingly killing people. Microsoft was aggressively anti-competitive, Facebook was (and still is) very much opposed to privacy on the Internet. A company is many cogs. The fact that Bill Gates was anti-competitive doesn't make him, the individual, a bad person. That's very clear from the work he's doing now. So assuming that all decisions stem fr…

I am paraphrasing, but the quote goes something like "Yesterday's robber-baron is today's philanthropist."
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