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Re: Swedish court upholds Assange arrest warrant

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Post by alkonaut » Fri, Sep 16, 2016, 10:15 PM UTC

wallace_f wrote: post #128

alkonaut wrote: post #126

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That might explain why he's portrayed as such. I doubt anyone twisted his arm to force him to do his own show on RT (The state sponsored Russian Breitbart) however.

What is wrong with that?

With being on RT?

Even allowing yourself to be interviewed on RT is discrediting. As I said, they are a Breitbart-esque state controlled propaganda arm of the Kremlin.

Steven Segal did this before, when he needed some spotlight:

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/oct/30/rt-russia-toda...

Re: Swedish court upholds Assange arrest warrant

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Post by phicoh » Fri, Sep 16, 2016, 10:49 PM UTC

openmosix wrote: post #118

phicoh wrote: post #117

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I'm my opinion this goes against european human rights. As soon as Sweden asked for him to be extradited from England, the clock starts ticking. After two years, they violated his right to a speedy trail and he is free to go. I'm really sad that his hasn't gone to the European Court of Human Right to decide against Sweden (or England, because it is actually England that is keeping him locked up). Note that I do not h…

So if as a regular citizen I commit 2 rapes (and they know who I am) if I am able to disappear for 2 years, then I'm free? That's convenient.

No, you get convicted in absentia (assuming there is enough evidence that you did it) and then you are essentially forever a wanted criminal who still has to do some jail time.

Re: Swedish court upholds Assange arrest warrant

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Post by wallace_f » Sat, Sep 17, 2016, 12:11 AM UTC

alkonaut wrote: post #131

wallace_f wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is wrong with that?

With being on RT? Even allowing yourself to be interviewed on RT is discrediting. As I said, they are a Breitbart-esque state controlled propaganda arm of the Kremlin. Steven Segal did this before, when he needed some spotlight: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/oct/30/rt-russia-toda...

Even if it is discrediting, which is debatable even if you agree RT is corrupt (and the largest western media outlets are not?), honestly would you not expect Assange to partner with foreign states which can offer support? He is having his life ruined on what looks to be pretty obviously bullshit charges, that no nation state would pursue in the way they are if it was not for Assange being seen as a persona non grata of the west.

Re: Swedish court upholds Assange arrest warrant

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Post by knocte » Sat, Sep 17, 2016, 5:34 AM UTC

Kenji wrote: post #7

If you read all the allegations that his 'victims' brought up, you see that while Assange isn't exactly a gentleman, nothing really bad took place. If Assange wasn't politically active in the way he is, he would get a slap on the wrist and move on with his life. It's pretty terrifying how you have to worry that your own country extradites you to America and this ruins your life even overseas. EDIT: Before you reply a…

"Your own country"? Assange is Australian, not Swedish.

Re: Swedish court upholds Assange arrest warrant

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Post by vintermann » Mon, Sep 19, 2016, 10:35 AM UTC

eli wrote: post #107

vintermann wrote: post #94

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This keeps getting claimed. No, Sweden is a sovereign nation and its extradition treaties are bilateral - that means they interpret them as they wish. If they think the demands for extradition are not fulfilled, they can say so, and that's the final word. There's nothing the US or UK can do but complain, there's no court they can apply to to overrule such a decision (because of course, the UK or US governments would…

"bilateral" means "interpret as they wish" ?

Basically, yes. Like a gentleman's agreement, there's no one around to interpret it for you or punish you if you "misinterpret" it - other than the other party, obviously.