This is not the first time Sweden has violated human dignity for the sake of helping out the US. One example: https://www.hrw.org/news/2006/11/09/sweden-violated-torture-...
What about the dignity of the two girls? They're not worth anything?
Swedish court upholds Assange arrest warrant
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Re: Swedish court upholds Assange arrest warrant
#42Someone accused of rape should not be given refuge to wait it out. Its easy for armchair conspiracists to imagine this whole thing an elaborate ruse to extradite Assange to the US, but Assange was being questioned in Sweden before he fled from there and on bail in the UK prior to 'fleeing' to the Ecuadorian embassy. It seems a very roundabout way for the Americans to get at him. Occams Razor Assange is fleeing justic…
If the UK and Sweden were to agree that Assange wouldn't be extradited to the US I imagine he'd be on the next flight to Stockholm. It's the extradition order that's blocking these two women getting justice, not Assange himself.
Re: Swedish court upholds Assange arrest warrant
#43If you read all the allegations that his 'victims' brought up, you see that while Assange isn't exactly a gentleman, nothing really bad took place. If Assange wasn't politically active in the way he is, he would get a slap on the wrist and move on with his life. It's pretty terrifying how you have to worry that your own country extradites you to America and this ruins your life even overseas. EDIT: Before you reply a…
Having unprotected sex with someone who is asleep and previously rejected unprotected sex is "nothing really bad"? Or did I miss some newer testimony?
Re: Swedish court upholds Assange arrest warrant
#44This is not the first time Sweden has violated human dignity for the sake of helping out the US. One example: https://www.hrw.org/news/2006/11/09/sweden-violated-torture-...
What about the dignity of the two girls? They're not worth anything?
Re: Swedish court upholds Assange arrest warrant
#45This is not the first time Sweden has violated human dignity for the sake of helping out the US. One example: https://www.hrw.org/news/2006/11/09/sweden-violated-torture-...
Sweden is not a "banana republic" or whatever you're trying to imply here.
Re: Swedish court upholds Assange arrest warrant
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Accusations should be investigated by the justice system, not dismissed just because the person is famous. They should face those accusations by being interviewed by the persecutor, and if the prosecutor believes there is a case to answer, they should face those accusations in court.
The Swedish police have had the option to interview Assange in London for three years, all expenses paid. They have chosen instead to temporize and delay, and thereby leave the investigation without closure. Note that the Swedish police have conducted foreign interviews in the past, but for some reason seem intent on drawing out this particular process.
"Last month, Ecuador’s prosecutor-general rejected a previous request from the Swedish prosecutor to question Assange in London. That office, in a letter to Swedish authorities, said it will interview Assange and asked for a list of questions the Swedish prosecutor wants the Ecuadorian prosecutor to ask the Wikileaks founder."
(http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/02/swe...)
Re: Swedish court upholds Assange arrest warrant
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. Anyone can be accused of rape, accusations should not matter.
There's a well established process for determining guilt or innocence, but it involves showing up for your court dates.
Some countries, especially in the Civil Law area allow sentences in absentia.
Re: Swedish court upholds Assange arrest warrant
#48Someone accused of rape should not be given refuge to wait it out. Its easy for armchair conspiracists to imagine this whole thing an elaborate ruse to extradite Assange to the US, but Assange was being questioned in Sweden before he fled from there and on bail in the UK prior to 'fleeing' to the Ecuadorian embassy. It seems a very roundabout way for the Americans to get at him. Occams Razor Assange is fleeing justic…
You're absolutely right, Assange should face his accusers in court. That's obvious. The problem is that Sweden and the UK are complicit in America's desire to seize Assange and put him in prison without even the possibility of a fair trial, and the first step in that process is his extradition to the US from either the UK or Sweden. That is what's interfering with the case and what Assange is fleeing from, not the ra…
The Swedes have asked the UK to extradite him to Sweden.
The US hasn't asked either the UK nor Sweden to extradite him to the US. Is there even a court case against him in the US?
The extradition to the US seems to be Assange's own narrative. Why didn't the US reach out to get him on the streets of London?
Re: Swedish court upholds Assange arrest warrant
#49Someone accused of rape should not be given refuge to wait it out. Its easy for armchair conspiracists to imagine this whole thing an elaborate ruse to extradite Assange to the US, but Assange was being questioned in Sweden before he fled from there and on bail in the UK prior to 'fleeing' to the Ecuadorian embassy. It seems a very roundabout way for the Americans to get at him. Occams Razor Assange is fleeing justic…
Re: Swedish court upholds Assange arrest warrant
#50Assange is a nutjob who grew up in Australia during the cold war as a teenage hacker thinking the world was going to end. His paranoia and sense of dread lead him to picking the biggest fight in the world possible. Potentially people have died because of what he did, but also the public has an amazing resource for understanding the larger powers at will in the world around them. If I have to get armchair about the ra…