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Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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Re: Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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Post by asendra »

JimmyAustin wrote: post #43
imtringued wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If these phone processors are that amazing why don't we see them being used outside phones and tablets? I mean take the A10 Fusion give it four cores instead of two and put it on a server mainboard with all the usual things like PCIe, Gigabit Ethernet and SATA. Basically do what AMD did with their A1100 except with a good processors and actually sell more than a dev kit. The lack of total raw processing power per ser…

After Apple left the server space when they shuttered the Xserve, I don't think they are really interested into getting involved into that space. I think they view themselves as a consumer goods company that makes good products and uses technological innovation to serve those goals, rather then create that innovation and figure out how to productise it later.

They don't need to sell them to enterprise. They can be their own customer. They have some of the bigger datacenters after all.

ARM for data storage pools seems like a good fit.

Re: Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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Post by tdkl »

frik wrote: post #13

I imagine in near future, we will use smartphones as our personal computer in every situation. In the office, one can then interact with a Bluetooth keyboard, mouse/touch pad and use a big monitor. Probably, one of the next iOS will come with a macOS UI as well (under the hood the iOS is based on macOS anyway) - so if you connect it to a huge monitor, you have the desktop UI of macOS, and otherwise the iOS UI. The sa…

I hope the closed iOS model with no option to choose between default apps doesn't become "desktop OS". I mean kudos for them for the HW achievement, but iOS is "dumbed" down as it gets.

Re: Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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Post by swift »

pjmlp wrote: post #54
swift wrote: post #36

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yep. the fact that iOS apps typically don't use GC and that multitasking is much more restricted both reduce the amount of memory that iOS needs. (though more is always better!)

ARC is GC algorithm. http://gchandbook.org/

it's true that reference counting is a type of GC, but i think it was clear what i meant.

Re: Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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Post by andruby »

captainmuon wrote: post #55

Cool, does that mean we can scale down the processor performance by half and still have a phone that is competitive, but has twice the battery life? OK, I know speed and power consumption are not linear. I'd really love if one phone would skip a year of increasing CPU speed and thinness, but would keep the advances in battery tech.

No. CPU's in a phone are probably idling 99% of the time. The power usage for the full-performance and half-performance cpu when idling will be close to equal.

The full-performance phone might even have better battery life because it can finish cpu intensive tasks twice as fast, returning to idle power draw faster than the half-performance phone.

Re: Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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Post by pjmlp »

swift wrote: post #63
pjmlp wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ARC is GC algorithm. http://gchandbook.org/

it's true that reference counting is a type of GC, but i think it was clear what i meant.

Not to those that don't have skills in compiler design.

I know I was being pedantic, but that is how misconceptions get spread.

Re: Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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Post by erikj »

MichaelGG wrote: post #56
erikj wrote: post #53

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The TDP limits of smartphones (no more than ~10W) make them unuseable for heavier workstation loads, and there will always be demand for a lot of local computational power.

Most people don't run workstation loads, let alone anything remotely resembling "heavy".

The parent comment was talking about "every situation", not "most people".

Re: Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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Post by intoverflow2 »

wyager wrote: post #14
zyxley wrote: post #12

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> Yeah, Macbook air really feels abandoned The Macbook-with-no-suffix line is the implicit replacement for the Air anyway.

Lighter, better screen, cheaper. I'm not sure why you'd buy an Air these days.

Because the Macbook runs slower the more you throw at it

Re: Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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Post by intoverflow2 »

flamedoge wrote: post #3

The day that apple flips switch in opt and ships OS X in Arms means Intel could be in trouble. They did it before with PowerPC->Intel.

PowerPC -> Intel worked because more software was shipping in x86 than PPC. The Mac software library actually grew after that.

Intel -> Arm locks out almost all pro software

Re: Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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Post by majewsky »

asendra wrote: post #61
JimmyAustin wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After Apple left the server space when they shuttered the Xserve, I don't think they are really interested into getting involved into that space. I think they view themselves as a consumer goods company that makes good products and uses technological innovation to serve those goals, rather then create that innovation and figure out how to productise it later.

They don't need to sell them to enterprise. They can be their own customer. They have some of the bigger datacenters after all. ARM for data storage pools seems like a good fit.

How can we know that they're not already doing that?

(Asking in a purely epistemological sense. I'm not familiar with Apple's datacenters at all.)

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