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Re: Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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Post by cloudjacker »

enraged_camel wrote: post #26
cloudjacker wrote: post #8

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Yeah, Macbook air really feels abandoned Would love a 16GB model. For the last 4 years of me saying that, everyone and their brother, and the Apple reps all say "oh you can configure that on the site", because they have have access to the parallel darknet version of the Apple site where Macbook airs ship with 16gb RAM I really like the air, but I can like the Macbook Pro its not really a big deal. JUST WISH THEY WOUL…

>>Yeah, Macbook air really feels abandoned That's because it is. What's interesting however is that my 2011 Macbook Air still works like a champ. It has a 1.7 Ghz Intel i5 CPU, 4GB of RAM and a 128 GB SSD. And, amazingly enough, the battery still lasts for 3-4 hours, even after five years of heavy usage. Macbook Pro is too heavy for me, and I don't like the lack of ports in the newer "Macbook" line, so I've held out.…

I have the 2012 Macbook Air 8gb RAM and 512 GB SSD

Still perfect for me, I do casual video editing and some compositing in 1080p and rendering time is still great, I compile large programming projects and it is comparable to all the spiffy new macbook pros companies want to set me up with

I did replace the battery for around $100

It has all the right ports at the right speeds, multiple usb 3.0, sdxc card slot with sdxc speeds, thunderbolt at thunderbolt speeds

The user experience still beats out all the sub $1000 laptops because the target audience accepts a lot of compromises and their budget is $400 (okay, I haven't looked at the market, just see what I see. a lot of people switched to tablets)

So I just wish they'd release the 1 TB version with 16gb RAM

The macbook air 2012 is the machine I always wanted to exist for half a decade, and it is still great. Not the model before, or the model before that.

Re: Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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Post by csydas »

wyager wrote: post #14
zyxley wrote: post #12

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> Yeah, Macbook air really feels abandoned The Macbook-with-no-suffix line is the implicit replacement for the Air anyway.

Lighter, better screen, cheaper. I'm not sure why you'd buy an Air these days.

Right now the display port and the two USB ports for the Air feel just about right for me, and it seems like the ideal "minimalist" laptop.

Performance wise I hear that both are comparable and you'll get similar battery life on both, but for me the Macbook_Raw barely crosses the line of "too minimalist". Though honestly, even a second USBC port would probably change my mind on it.

I also really like the feel of the 13" screen - it seems just right, but I suppose I could get used to the 12". Also don't really wanna go back to a Bluetooth Mouse again, but this is ultimately a minor quibble that I could get over pretty easily.

Re: Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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Post by erikj »

frik wrote: post #13

I imagine in near future, we will use smartphones as our personal computer in every situation. In the office, one can then interact with a Bluetooth keyboard, mouse/touch pad and use a big monitor. Probably, one of the next iOS will come with a macOS UI as well (under the hood the iOS is based on macOS anyway) - so if you connect it to a huge monitor, you have the desktop UI of macOS, and otherwise the iOS UI. The sa…

The TDP limits of smartphones (no more than ~10W) make them unuseable for heavier workstation loads, and there will always be demand for a lot of local computational power.

Re: Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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Post by pjmlp »

swift wrote: post #36
t0mislav wrote: post #31

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Probably iPhone will be faster in every day usage with 2GB of RAM then these 2 phones with 6 GB.

yep. the fact that iOS apps typically don't use GC and that multitasking is much more restricted both reduce the amount of memory that iOS needs. (though more is always better!)

ARC is GC algorithm.

http://gchandbook.org/

Re: Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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Post by captainmuon »

Cool, does that mean we can scale down the processor performance by half and still have a phone that is competitive, but has twice the battery life? OK, I know speed and power consumption are not linear. I'd really love if one phone would skip a year of increasing CPU speed and thinness, but would keep the advances in battery tech.

Re: Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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Post by MichaelGG »

erikj wrote: post #53
frik wrote: post #13

I imagine in near future, we will use smartphones as our personal computer in every situation. In the office, one can then interact with a Bluetooth keyboard, mouse/touch pad and use a big monitor. Probably, one of the next iOS will come with a macOS UI as well (under the hood the iOS is based on macOS anyway) - so if you connect it to a huge monitor, you have the desktop UI of macOS, and otherwise the iOS UI. The sa…

The TDP limits of smartphones (no more than ~10W) make them unuseable for heavier workstation loads, and there will always be demand for a lot of local computational power.

Most people don't run workstation loads, let alone anything remotely resembling "heavy".

Re: Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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Post by makapuf »

iMark wrote: post #32
mungoman2 wrote: post #18

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It would be a powerful statement that Intel is not the given choice for the CPU in a "real" computers (as opposed to smartphone/tablet) anymore.

It would send a signal that Intel isn't the given choice if you've made a vast investment developing your own CPU line over the years.

No, you can already use other vendors chips. What it would say for consumer products is that it isn't the given choice provided you developed and ported your own OS (or -ha- use linux).

Re: Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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Post by jowiar »

_ph_ wrote: post #46
jowiar wrote: post #44

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I'm thinking it's more likely that MacBooks (and probably Macs) are killed off altogether (or merged into iPads). I think we're about 2 iOS iterations away from the iPad being a complete Macbook replacement (and we're there for a vast majority of consumers right now). I'm assuming Xcode for iOS arriving next year, along with loosening the restrictions on running locally-developed code. Then one more year to clean thi…

As much as I like iOS for my iPhone, for replacing a "Computer" Apple would need to introduce some kind of file system, where data can be shared between apps, and lift most restrictions about what apps can do. A linux VM running on an iPad would be a game-changer for me.

It's getting there, with the evolution of sharesheets + iCloud Drive.

I've been meaning to play around with a 4g iPad + cloud boxes for webdev and analytics workflow.

Re: Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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Post by asendra »

cwyers wrote: post #19

Perhaps relevant. Linus Torvalds' opinion on GeekBench: http://www.realworldtech.com/forum/?threadid=136526&curposti... > So basically a quarter to a third of the "integer" workloads are just utter BS. They are not comparable across architectures due to the crypto units, and even within one architecture the numbers just don't mean much of anything. >And quite frankly, it's not even just the crypto ones. Looking at th…

Updated thoughts regarding Geekbench 4, the newer version. http://www.realworldtech.com/forum/?threadid=159853&curposti...

TLDR: Much better.

Re: Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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Post by zeckalpha »

wyager wrote: post #14
zyxley wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yeah, Macbook air really feels abandoned The Macbook-with-no-suffix line is the implicit replacement for the Air anyway.

Lighter, better screen, cheaper. I'm not sure why you'd buy an Air these days.

Battery.
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