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Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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Re: Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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Does this have implications for game consoles too? Is the iPhone the most powerful gaming device?

It's quite possibly faster in the CPU department than the PS4/Xbox One, though those both have 8 (slower) cores.

But the PS4, Xbox One and possibly even the Wii U will have much faster GPUs.

Re: Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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This shows both the amazing progress of iPhone and disheartening progress of the Mac line simultaneously.

Yeah, Macbook air really feels abandoned Would love a 16GB model. For the last 4 years of me saying that, everyone and their brother, and the Apple reps all say "oh you can configure that on the site", because they have have access to the parallel darknet version of the Apple site where Macbook airs ship with 16gb RAM I really like the air, but I can like the Macbook Pro its not really a big deal. JUST WISH THEY WOUL…

> Yeah, Macbook air really feels abandoned

The Macbook-with-no-suffix line is the implicit replacement for the Air anyway.

Re: Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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I imagine in near future, we will use smartphones as our personal computer in every situation. In the office, one can then interact with a Bluetooth keyboard, mouse/touch pad and use a big monitor. Probably, one of the next iOS will come with a macOS UI as well (under the hood the iOS is based on macOS anyway) - so if you connect it to a huge monitor, you have the desktop UI of macOS, and otherwise the iOS UI. The same will happen with Android/ChromeOS/Google Fuchsia, Ubuntu and MS has some ideas too (but they cannot execute it, forcing mobile UI on desktop failed big, now they bet on Win32 again to fill their empty AppStore).

Re: Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, Macbook air really feels abandoned Would love a 16GB model. For the last 4 years of me saying that, everyone and their brother, and the Apple reps all say "oh you can configure that on the site", because they have have access to the parallel darknet version of the Apple site where Macbook airs ship with 16gb RAM I really like the air, but I can like the Macbook Pro its not really a big deal. JUST WISH THEY WOUL…

> Yeah, Macbook air really feels abandoned The Macbook-with-no-suffix line is the implicit replacement for the Air anyway.

Lighter, better screen, cheaper. I'm not sure why you'd buy an Air these days.

Re: Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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Does this have implications for game consoles too? Is the iPhone the most powerful gaming device?

It's quite possibly faster in the CPU department than the PS4/Xbox One, though those both have 8 (slower) cores. But the PS4, Xbox One and possibly even the Wii U will have much faster GPUs.

The PS4 and XBox One also have four times as much RAM as the iPhone 7. In fact I was kind of shocked when they announced it would only have 2GB, considering you can get a Nexus or OnePlus with 6GB this year.

Re: Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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I imagine in near future, we will use smartphones as our personal computer in every situation. In the office, one can then interact with a Bluetooth keyboard, mouse/touch pad and use a big monitor. Probably, one of the next iOS will come with a macOS UI as well (under the hood the iOS is based on macOS anyway) - so if you connect it to a huge monitor, you have the desktop UI of macOS, and otherwise the iOS UI. The sa…

My phone catches on fire whenever I open up chrome. How will it handle multiple IDEs? Would be interested to hear from a hardware person if cooling is a hard or soft bottleneck for something like this...

Re: Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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I imagine in near future, we will use smartphones as our personal computer in every situation. In the office, one can then interact with a Bluetooth keyboard, mouse/touch pad and use a big monitor. Probably, one of the next iOS will come with a macOS UI as well (under the hood the iOS is based on macOS anyway) - so if you connect it to a huge monitor, you have the desktop UI of macOS, and otherwise the iOS UI. The sa…

As far as I know Ubuntu and Windows are already doing this. But as you said without much luck.

I also think this is the future. But not only for the switch to desktop. Also as car console, key store, tv remote, synthesizer (just put it in a midi device) and so on.

You personal key to everything. And your single attack vector...

Re: Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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The day that apple flips switch in opt and ships OS X in Arms means Intel could be in trouble. They did it before with PowerPC->Intel.

Intel will be ok, Apple don't sell that many chips. And it is not going to affect anyone else. And Intel are looking at helping Apple out with the next versions of their chips, possibly fabbing them.

It would be a powerful statement that Intel is not the given choice for the CPU in a "real" computers (as opposed to smartphone/tablet) anymore.

Re: Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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Perhaps relevant. Linus Torvalds' opinion on GeekBench:

http://www.realworldtech.com/forum/?threadid=136526&curposti...

> So basically a quarter to a third of the "integer" workloads are just utter BS. They are not comparable across architectures due to the crypto units, and even within one architecture the numbers just don't mean much of anything.

>And quite frankly, it's not even just the crypto ones. Looking at the other GB3 "benchmarks", they are mainly small kernels: not really much different from dhrystone. I suspect most of them have a code footprint that basically fits in a L1I cache.

It's a few years out of date, and maybe Geekbench has improved since then, but I wouldn't put a lot of stock into these kinds of numbers until I knew that those kinds of issues had been addressed.

Re: Geekbench: iPhone 7 faster than all Macbook Airs in single thread

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I imagine in near future, we will use smartphones as our personal computer in every situation. In the office, one can then interact with a Bluetooth keyboard, mouse/touch pad and use a big monitor. Probably, one of the next iOS will come with a macOS UI as well (under the hood the iOS is based on macOS anyway) - so if you connect it to a huge monitor, you have the desktop UI of macOS, and otherwise the iOS UI. The sa…

The Andromium guys are trying to do that right now. They had a Kickstarter for a dock for your phone that does this for you, but it failed a few years ago. Just a month ago they tried the same thing with a very streamlined "laptop-like shell", and that Kickstarter[2] succeeded. I am one of the backers and I am quite excited about it.

[2] Non-referral link: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/andromium/the-superbook...

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