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Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by jolux »

samstave wrote: post #125
jolux wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That makes absolutely no sense. They decided to feed it to people as a way of getting rid of it? Why not blast it out into space or bury it in a bunker or any other thousands of easier ways we have to dispose of things than coming up with a conspiracy for having people ingest it?

Jesus christ - I am not saying it myself... I am simply stating a FUCKING QUOTE that I recall the head of ALCOA saying to my dad when I was a kid! God HNers... I in no way gave any bias in the relaying of said quote. I cant find him online, but this is his son (Jr.) with whom I used to work with when I was a teen: http://perkinswill.com/people/john-haymaker.html

The question was directed at the speaker of the quote, I was only asking you because I assumed your recapitulation of it meant you believed it. If you didn't, my apologies.

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by samstave »

dragonwriter wrote: post #126
samstave wrote: post #117

I was down voted to hell for saying this in the past, but I'll share it again: One of my dads best friends was head of ALCOA, John Haymaker: Quote: "aluminum production produces fluoride acid - a substance so toxic that we cannot dispose of it... So we began fluoridation of the water because the only place we can store it is in your liver" And for those that toe the line with dental benefit BS: if the government was…

> why isn't any other medical benefit made free and literally forced upon you like fluoride is??? Iodization of edible salt is commonly either mandated or subsidized by government, so fluoridation of water isn't the only intervention of its kind.

Thats a good point.

As i mentioned - this is NOT my thinking - I am literally quoting the head of the largest aluminum processing conglomerate in the WORLD on what he said to my dad.

People seem to be confusing his comments with my own... I have no opinion!

You should hear some of the fucking quote I have of John Herrington (sec. dept energy under reagan)....

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by mod »

gthtjtkt wrote: post #94
jdcarter wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My first thought was, why this vs. caffeinated gum? I've used the gum for years (look up "military energy gum") and it's perfect. But I don't want it every time I brush. Brushing teeth and wanting a pick-me-up seem like totally orthogonal needs. Pro tip: keep a pack of caffeinated gum in your car. Great for road trips or late nights!

> Brushing teeth and wanting a pick-me-up seem like totally orthogonal needs. You don't brush your teeth shortly after waking up every morning?

Not that guy, but I feel good in the morning.

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by dragonwriter »

samstave wrote: post #132
dragonwriter wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> why isn't any other medical benefit made free and literally forced upon you like fluoride is??? Iodization of edible salt is commonly either mandated or subsidized by government, so fluoridation of water isn't the only intervention of its kind.

Thats a good point. As i mentioned - this is NOT my thinking - I am literally quoting the head of the largest aluminum processing conglomerate in the WORLD on what he said to my dad. People seem to be confusing his comments with my own... I have no opinion! You should hear some of the fucking quote I have of John Herrington (sec. dept energy under reagan)....

> I am literally quoting the head of the largest aluminum processing conglomerate in the WORLD on what he said to my dad.

One part of your post was framed as a quote, the part about "dental benefit BS" and "why isn't any other medical benefit made free and literally forced upon you like fluoride is???" was not.

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by jamiepenney »

koytch wrote: post #120
nappy wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wrote a longer comment about this below, but the essential reason is: if I made fluoride a product requirement, I wouldn't have gotten to a release. It would have added a huge expense. Additionally, fluoride is much more important for children. As enamel is forming, fluoride interacts with it and strengthens it. Adults need far less (threshold dose effect) and for most people in the United States, they likely get e…

As a guy living in Europe, it seems more logical to drink unfluoridated water and use fluoridated toothpaste, but that's America over there… Cool idea, for sure.

For children, it works better in the water as you're trying to get flouride to the developing adult teeth rather than their baby teeth.

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

gthtjtkt wrote: post #94
jdcarter wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My first thought was, why this vs. caffeinated gum? I've used the gum for years (look up "military energy gum") and it's perfect. But I don't want it every time I brush. Brushing teeth and wanting a pick-me-up seem like totally orthogonal needs. Pro tip: keep a pack of caffeinated gum in your car. Great for road trips or late nights!

> Brushing teeth and wanting a pick-me-up seem like totally orthogonal needs. You don't brush your teeth shortly after waking up every morning?

I also brush before I go to bed. I would need 2 pastes and be careful not to mix them up. I've accidentally put hand soap and moisturiser on my toothbrush before because I was so sleepy.

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by samstave »

dragonwriter wrote: post #135
samstave wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thats a good point. As i mentioned - this is NOT my thinking - I am literally quoting the head of the largest aluminum processing conglomerate in the WORLD on what he said to my dad. People seem to be confusing his comments with my own... I have no opinion! You should hear some of the fucking quote I have of John Herrington (sec. dept energy under reagan)....

> I am literally quoting the head of the largest aluminum processing conglomerate in the WORLD on what he said to my dad. One part of your post was framed as a quote, the part about "dental benefit BS" and "why isn't any other medical benefit made free and literally forced upon you like fluoride is???" was not.

Thats fair...

But the sentiment I have is the same: on the one hand, I quoted some questionable logic from head of alcoa - then I asked a fair question: "if the government is so concerned with my health, why is all other healthcare not free/forced upon me???"

As another user pointed out, Iodized salt is mandated.

How about other medical practices? Why are mammograms not free and forced upon all those with breasts?

Prostate exams?

Lung cancer checks?

Liver issues???

it doesnt matter that its beneficial - what I am asking is "Why these, and not those?"

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by betenoire »

samstave wrote: post #125
jolux wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That makes absolutely no sense. They decided to feed it to people as a way of getting rid of it? Why not blast it out into space or bury it in a bunker or any other thousands of easier ways we have to dispose of things than coming up with a conspiracy for having people ingest it?

Jesus christ - I am not saying it myself... I am simply stating a FUCKING QUOTE that I recall the head of ALCOA saying to my dad when I was a kid! God HNers... I in no way gave any bias in the relaying of said quote. I cant find him online, but this is his son (Jr.) with whom I used to work with when I was a teen: http://perkinswill.com/people/john-haymaker.html

"And for those that toe the line with dental benefit BS..."

you _did_ say this, i'm not sure why you keep getting defensive when someone replies to your words.

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