Old Geek Jobs: fighting against ageism in the industry

Post by SadWebDeveloper » Thu, Sep 15, 2016, 3:23 PM UTC

tjic wrote: post #5

SadWebDeveloper wrote: post #4

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Problem with your solution is that you already now people, if you don't you have to rely on websites like freelancer that pretty much are the same as paid-to-win-the-bid in modern mobile video games and it's sad when people all over the world bid really low those making the website effectively racist regarding devs that to this for living instead of side jobs.

Knowing people happens after 20 years in the industry. It may very well be that the best way to kick start your career is to move to SF or some other big city. So be it. I did the first 20 years of my career in the Boston area. I have no idea what you mean about websites being racist. For picking lower cost developers? It seems odd to call people who give work to people in other countries "racist". Isn't doing that e…

Post by johnwheeler » Thu, Sep 15, 2016, 3:25 PM UTC

wodenokoto wrote: post #22

johnwheeler wrote: post #3

Hi Everybody, I'm the creator of the site the down blog in the OP links to https://oldgeekjobs.com . I developed it as an MVP last night in one hour. The blog looks like it's getting crushed under load, so here's the content of the post: Check out https://oldgeekjobs.com/ if you’re over 30. In the software development industry it’s hard to get hired when you get past 35 and are still “just a developer”. Employers loo…

> Check out https://oldgeekjobs.com/ because there may just be a job for you, a place where you won’t be discriminated against just because you’re getting older and wiser. All I see is a form to post job-ads, and nowhere to look at them.

Post by tjic » Thu, Sep 15, 2016, 3:28 PM UTC

SadWebDeveloper wrote: post #21

tjic wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Knowing people happens after 20 years in the industry. It may very well be that the best way to kick start your career is to move to SF or some other big city. So be it. I did the first 20 years of my career in the Boston area. I have no idea what you mean about websites being racist. For picking lower cost developers? It seems odd to call people who give work to people in other countries "racist". Isn't doing that e…

Just try to win a project on any modern "freelancing" website and you will understand... personally i used to make solid money on Rent-A-Coder even before getting my CS degree and when they sell us to Freelancer, i started losing bids and the great bids were "closed" to only accept bid "first world developers" (ie US Developers) or limited to people that already paid for the website membership to get in so pretty muc…

Post by kyled » Thu, Sep 15, 2016, 3:30 PM UTC

tjic wrote: post #13

vemv wrote: post #11

You don't want to be coding by age 50 anyway. Sooner or later it has to end. If you are a young programmer and your salary merely covers your costs of living (including leisure etc), it seems to me that you need a plan.

I've been a coder. I've been a manager. I've owned a firm that had 15 employees. Of all of these, I prefer to be a coder. I'm just 5 years away from 50, and let me tell you: not only do I want to be a developer at 50, I want to be a developer at 70. Being a developer means getting paid good money to work on problems that are perfectly suited to my INTJ / spergy personality. There's nothing else I'd rather do with my…

Post by bdunbar » Thu, Sep 15, 2016, 3:34 PM UTC

SadWebDeveloper wrote: post #4

tjic wrote: post #2

I think that the "Bay Area scene" is different from much of the world. I think that part of human nature is that people like people who are like themselves, so you sometimes get these insular / discriminatory sub cultures that judge people on superficial traits instead of the quality of their minds. From both this article and the tales of many friends, San Francisco strikes as one of these low-tolerance / high-discri…

Problem with your solution is that you already now people, if you don't you have to rely on websites like freelancer that pretty much are the same as paid-to-win-the-bid in modern mobile video games and it's sad when people all over the world bid really low those making the website effectively racist regarding devs that to this for living instead of side jobs.