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San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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Little do they know that SV is just as desolate? Most of the big tech firms are 1-2 hours away from SF in suburbia.

Not only that, but isn't there a massive shortage of single women there? I guess the Millennials aren't interested in dating....

If you are a man (dating wise) it's better to be in NYC (Honestly don't know anything about San Diego). If you are a woman it's better to be in SV or SF.

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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I grew up in San Diego before spending 20 years in the Bay Area. While I totally understand why a fresh graduate would want to head north to the bay, I think as a place to CREATE a startup, San Diego has tremendous potential. The weather is beautiful and actually beats SF. It's close to 70 year round, nice and dry, with great beaches and mountain and desert hiking. As the article notes downtown has been evolving in a…

Yea NYC and SF are my favorite cities. I think you cleared up for me why that is.

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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I lived in San Diego for the last two years and this article doesn't make much sense to me. They say the problem is that Sorento valley is to far from San Diego downtown but downtown is dull and there are plenty of good places to live not far away from Sorento valley (Del Mar, La Jolla, Pacific Beach). I commuted from North Park to the UCSD campus which is close to Sorrento valley and it was no problem at all.

That's funny, I remember getting from North Park to Sorrento Valley being sheer, utter hell on earth, most of it spent crawling up 805 at a snail's pace.

Also, downtown (well, the gaslamp at least) is kinda meh but North Park, South Park, and Golden Hill are probably the best neighborhoods in the city, and about 2 miles from DT.

DT does have one advantage though in that you can take the Coaster to Sorrento Valley.

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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I was in San Diego last year. Speaking to recent graduates as well as people looking to go to university, a great many, more than I expected, mentioned wanting to move to the SF bay area for either work or study, once I mentioned living in the SFBA --admonitions about the cost of living didn't seem to have much sway.

I think young locals see SD as an outpost of (US) civilization and have a desire to move to the actual center of jobs, education, technology and a little bit of culture.

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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Little do they know that SV is just as desolate? Most of the big tech firms are 1-2 hours away from SF in suburbia.

Can you name one "big tech firm" that is 2 hour away from SF?

South Bay is 1-2 hours from SF, pretty much any company in San Jose can be 2 hours from SF depending on traffic

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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I mean, you could live downtown and drive 25 minutes to Sorrento valley. Most commuters are going the opposite way. You could even go surfing in the morning before work, if you live just a bit north of Downtown. Sorrento valley is a lonely place though, I do admit this.

I think you mean 55-85 minutes.

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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Slightly off topic, maybe. I live in San Diego. Anyone here from the area know of any local resources a novice developer can use? I searched through ycombinator and the one book everyone refers to is the Big Nerd Ranch one. Currently going through that. I see that the article mentions Origin Code Academy. However, I already work full time and can't use the day time to take classes at an academy. I have a few ideas fo…

I like Coursera and edX. Content is high quality and it's all still free. Might want to check out your local community college. Books/self-study can be great. However that style of learning doesn't work for everyone (particularly when just starting out).

Books and MOOCs are best when supplemented by studying alongside peers. I've been leading discussion groups for years as we either go through books or take courses. (An archive of some of them at http://wiki.apache.org/lucy/LucyBookClub ).

Right now, a group of us are going through the MIT OCW Gilbert Strang Linear Algebra course ( http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/mathematics/18-06sc-linear-algebr... ), along with Coding the Matrix from Philip Klein at Brown University ( http://codingthematrix.com/ ).

I'm in San Diego, but most of the time I've recruited study partners from either $dayjob or the open source communities I'm active in rather than met people locally. Coursera Meetups haven't worked out so well for me. I wish I had somebody to study DSP and audio programming with. :)

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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I mean, you could live downtown and drive 25 minutes to Sorrento valley. Most commuters are going the opposite way. You could even go surfing in the morning before work, if you live just a bit north of Downtown. Sorrento valley is a lonely place though, I do admit this.

As counter-intuitive as this sounds, it's actually the complete opposite. Living downtown and commuting to Sorrento Valley is a pain. My boss does it and he does 6 AM - 8PM to avoid traffic. Meanwhile, my wife goes from Del Mar to Old Town and only starts seeing traffic close to Del Mar on her way back.

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you name one "big tech firm" that is 2 hour away from SF?

Apple, depending on traffic or how you get there.

^^^ exactly! People just don't understand how bad the traffic and transportation systems around here can be, especially the northbound evening commute hours.

My choice would have been IBM though, being as far as I can recall the most distant major tech campus from San Francisco. It's 90 minutes by car or 3 hours by train.

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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My first job out of school was at Qualcomm.

The lunch options are actually pretty great (Mexican/Indian/Afghan/Thai/Chinese/French/Donut Touch/whatever you want) in Sorrento Valley, and it's located next to a beautiful canyon. The problem is that it's profoundly isolated from the rest of the city, and there's reasonable way to get there and back other than driving in heavy traffic. Basically, although it's in the City of San Diego, it's not remotely in anything resembling a city and it's not near anything remotely resembling a social life.

I lived in La Jolla near the beach— also beautiful, but also boring by design. Any youth and energy (other than drunks in lifted trucks) was a half-hour drive away, which also meant I couldn't drink.

I also didn't love my work at Qualcomm and couldn't find another job in a more-reasonable location.

I biked to work there, but that meant biking on the 5, which felt extremely unsustainable— the only other bike commuter I ran into was an older guy who had been rear-ended by a drunk on a similar route. There was no practical way to commute on transit— just an infrequent commuter train down an enormous mesa from the office.

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