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Re: WADA Confirms Attack by Russian Cyber Espionage Group

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Post by ezhik_ »

DanBC wrote: post #47
ezhik_ wrote: post #16

Why the hell US government, US media and pro-US organizations (ex. WADA) says that the Russian government was behind all hacking attacks in the last 6 month (maybe year or even more)? It sounds like a broken joke from 60s... Yes, I'm Russian. Yes, I live in Russia. And Yes, I like my country.

Here's a description of Russian state sponsored trolling. It's worth a read, even though it's long. http://www.stratcomcoe.org/internet-trolling-hybrid-warfare-... Especially page 60 onwards is useful.

I can give you my contacts or meet you anyway in the world, so you can be sure, that I'm not a troll, that was payed by Russian government. Just pay me for tickets. I'm just a simple family man, who works as a programmer and in less the one year I will post my startup here, at Hacker News :)

Re: WADA Confirms Attack by Russian Cyber Espionage Group

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Post by ezhik_ »

andreasley wrote: post #32
ezhik_ wrote: post #16

Why the hell US government, US media and pro-US organizations (ex. WADA) says that the Russian government was behind all hacking attacks in the last 6 month (maybe year or even more)? It sounds like a broken joke from 60s... Yes, I'm Russian. Yes, I live in Russia. And Yes, I like my country.

Because it serves their interest to say so, regardless if it's actually true. Russia is a welcome target and it's basically impossible to prove who's reponsible for a hack like this (the korean symbols in the Fancy Bear's website's [1] source code are cute though). Also, that's how media works these days. One press release to Reuters, and all the newspapers publish the same "facts". That being said, I think it's fair…

This is driving me crazy. No proves was provided of almost any (all?) claims against Russia in the last 2-3 years. They just continue saying: "It was Russian", "It was Putin" etc. But where is the proves? Give me then and I'll stop talking about this.

Several years ago I used to support eastern position in all situation in Russia. But after accusation against Russia with no proves started to appear I become quite disappointed in the US...

Re: WADA Confirms Attack by Russian Cyber Espionage Group

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Post by mlvljr »

ezhik_ wrote: post #79
mulmen wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you provide this data to enlighten the rest of us?

Hackers website: http://fancybear.net/ . There is documents, that WADA allowed Serena Williams to take oxycodone and hydromorphone (opioids), prednisone, prednisolone, and methylprednisolone. Her sister Venus Williams was allowed to take prednisone, prednisolone, triamcinolone and formoterol. This is very strong grungs, they should lay in hostpital if they need then for living (owning some of this drugs will cause a…

Вот с этого бы и начинал.

Эмоций надо поменьше, а то заклюют ни за понюх :)

Re: WADA Confirms Attack by Russian Cyber Espionage Group

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Post by celticninja »

bsder wrote: post #30
kushti wrote: post #20

How WADA can distinguish Russian group from any other? How anti-doping agency becomes proficient in cyber security?

Likely the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (Canada's Federal Police Force) given that WADA is based in Montreal. The quote from the article: "WADA has been informed by law enforcement authorities that these attacks are originating out of Russia,” he continued."

And even without that it was pretty obvious who the attackers were given the released data:

1) Focus on US athletes

2) Bear mentioned in name of hackers

3) Focus on sports doping (which Russia was recently found guilty of)

Now I know that many hacks and hackers will obfuscate the trail to them as much as possible but this is a fairly basic attack with little in the way of real impact as a result of the releases. It was obvious even to a non-security professional that the most likely culprits were russian nationalist hackers.

Re: WADA Confirms Attack by Russian Cyber Espionage Group

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Post by celticninja »

supergirl wrote: post #55
conistonwater wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are not the organization that conducted the investigation.

You didn't get me. In this post they say the attack originated in Russia. I hope you don't think that automatically means the government did it. In any case, wada does not explicitly accuse the government. But still they give that condescending statement, as if Russia now has to become a country without criminals to win trust back. I think it is telling of their bias.

You would do well to read the article, specifically:

“WADA has been informed by law enforcement authorities that these attacks are originating out of Russia,”

A quick google search of Fancy Bears (the name the hackers have used on their release page) links them to APT28:

"APT28, as it's known by FireEye/Mandiant, is also called Tsar Team by iSIGHT Partners, Sednit by Eset, Fancy Bear by CrowdStrike, and Operation Pawn Storm by Trend Micro. This attack group goes after NATO, Eastern European government and military agencies, defense, and Russian adversaries, the report notes."

WADA didnt investigate, the investigation is done by competent security analysts, and whilst I am aware that anything is this sphere is possibly misinformation/propaganda from both sides, it would seem evident that after Russia were sanctioned for doping, then hackers release data on suspected US doping that there is an easy link to make. And there is very little to be gained by another adversary trying to make trouble between the US and Russia with such an attack.

Re: WADA Confirms Attack by Russian Cyber Espionage Group

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Post by celticninja »

ezhik_ wrote: post #16

Why the hell US government, US media and pro-US organizations (ex. WADA) says that the Russian government was behind all hacking attacks in the last 6 month (maybe year or even more)? It sounds like a broken joke from 60s... Yes, I'm Russian. Yes, I live in Russia. And Yes, I like my country.

That's not really true now is it. One of the most technically proficient hacks of recent times would have to be the Stuxnet attack, which is largely accepted to be the work of the US security services. this was widely covered in all media regardless of their affiliation with the US.

In addition many attacks have been attributed to China in the period you have mentioned.

It is incredibly likely that US based hackers have attacked both Russian and Chinese targets however both these governments would cover up these through control of state media to prevent what they would see as embarassment. Western media will report on hacks regardless of which government had done them if they were aware of the hack occuring.

No problems with liking your country but blindly believing everything put out by state controlled media does not have to be part of that.

Re: WADA Confirms Attack by Russian Cyber Espionage Group

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Re: WADA Confirms Attack by Russian Cyber Espionage Group

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Post by supergirl »

celticninja wrote: post #85
supergirl wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You didn't get me. In this post they say the attack originated in Russia. I hope you don't think that automatically means the government did it. In any case, wada does not explicitly accuse the government. But still they give that condescending statement, as if Russia now has to become a country without criminals to win trust back. I think it is telling of their bias.

You would do well to read the article, specifically: “WADA has been informed by law enforcement authorities that these attacks are originating out of Russia,” A quick google search of Fancy Bears (the name the hackers have used on their release page) links them to APT28: "APT28, as it's known by FireEye/Mandiant, is also called Tsar Team by iSIGHT Partners, Sednit by Eset, Fancy Bear by CrowdStrike, and Operation Paw…

You would do well to try to understand my comment better. Is there proof this hacker group is the Russian government? I don's hear any and even wada did not claim this. Therefore it is a criminal group from Russia. Why should Russia as a state be punished for its criminals? Is that how it works now?
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