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Tell HN: MacOS turns off the fans when Siri is listening

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Re: Tell HN: MacOS turns off the fans when Siri is listening

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So, can I overheat my friends laptop, by saying "Siri" and proceeding to read war and peace?

If they thought about turning it off to increase the clarity of the speech, they probably thought of turning them on in case the computer is about to explode.

Re: Tell HN: MacOS turns off the fans when Siri is listening

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post #70

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I noticed that since I have iMessage synced to my Macbook, if I ever lost my laptop and someone tried to hack my accounts, they would get the 2FA access code on the laptop they stole.

Those codes come across as actual SMS messages to the associated phone number. It appears on your laptop only when the phone is near enough to it that the "continuity" feature is engaged. You should be safe from this threat as long as the laptop isn't lost very nearby.

That is not true. SMS messages arrive as long as the phone is online, regardless of location.

Re: Tell HN: MacOS turns off the fans when Siri is listening

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post #70

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Those codes come across as actual SMS messages to the associated phone number. It appears on your laptop only when the phone is near enough to it that the "continuity" feature is engaged. You should be safe from this threat as long as the laptop isn't lost very nearby.

That is not true. SMS messages arrive as long as the phone is online, regardless of location.

I've never seen this behavior with my own devices, and cursory searching turns up similar results. Certainly I could be wrong, so can you point me to any references that describe the "proximity not required" behavior?

Re: Tell HN: MacOS turns off the fans when Siri is listening

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post #37

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> The thought of the little [things] is what still makes me stick with OS X. This rubs me the wrong way because it's a vicious (positive, I guess) cycle. You keep buying iPhones, they stockpile billions in cash, and they can "think of the little things" (which is really just "How can we make OS X more like iOS and less suitable for power users?"). It's sad... but I can't imagine anyone taking the time to hack this to…

I used to think this way. I remember writing an angry rant comment on a review of the Magic Trackpad, saying it was the beginning of the end for precise, professional input. Now, of course, I exclusively use the MT with my Macs & plan on moving to iPad Pro. I've realized that what actually makes someone more efficient and productive are not the tools that seem the most complex or offer the most options. What I've rea…

Well put. Exactly how I feel. So many people are like "Yeah, enjoy your non-customizable iPhone." or other similar stuff about OS X/macOS but those are the beauties to me. The reasons I enjoy it so much. I don't want to spend 45 minutes customizing my devices. I just want to use them. I don't even care about the wallpaper on my machine anymore. I have an app installed that randomly updates the wallpaper using unsplash.com photos just incase there's that off chance that I see my desktop.

Some people like to be productive, others like to control every aspect of their devices. It's okay. Choose based on your needs.

Re: Tell HN: MacOS turns off the fans when Siri is listening

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post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those codes come across as actual SMS messages to the associated phone number. It appears on your laptop only when the phone is near enough to it that the "continuity" feature is engaged. You should be safe from this threat as long as the laptop isn't lost very nearby.

That is not true. SMS messages arrive as long as the phone is online, regardless of location.

Sending and receiving non-iOS/iMessage texts require your phone to be near your computer. I don't believe any company sends 2FA codes to you through iMessage.

Re: Tell HN: MacOS turns off the fans when Siri is listening

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post #37

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> The thought of the little [things] is what still makes me stick with OS X. This rubs me the wrong way because it's a vicious (positive, I guess) cycle. You keep buying iPhones, they stockpile billions in cash, and they can "think of the little things" (which is really just "How can we make OS X more like iOS and less suitable for power users?"). It's sad... but I can't imagine anyone taking the time to hack this to…

I don't think it's about the money, it's more of a matter of capability and simply "caring". Regarding the latter: it seems that Apple has managed to build an organization where everyone knows that details matter and everyone identifies with their work. Here's a wonderful example: two SMS, one from google and one from Deutsche Bank (who, at the time, probably had enough money to care about details) https://twitter.co…

Google's is a more convenient general-case solution, but Deutsche Bank may actually want to trick the user into reading the sum and the purpose of the transaction before he or she gets to the code. It could prevent a race condition type of attack if the user's PC is compromised.

Re: Tell HN: MacOS turns off the fans when Siri is listening

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It's kinda stupid - instead of intelligently filtering the noise (it knows the acoustics, the RPM of the fan, etc).

Since when were simple solutions considered stupid? If filtering audio (which will probably only work the CPU, and thus the fan, more) is smarter than stopping a fan, I must be as dumb as bricks.

It's a simple non-solution as noise is not coming only from the fan. Yes, you're reducing one that's easy to eliminate, but the problem still exists.

Re: Tell HN: MacOS turns off the fans when Siri is listening

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post #37

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> The thought of the little [things] is what still makes me stick with OS X. This rubs me the wrong way because it's a vicious (positive, I guess) cycle. You keep buying iPhones, they stockpile billions in cash, and they can "think of the little things" (which is really just "How can we make OS X more like iOS and less suitable for power users?"). It's sad... but I can't imagine anyone taking the time to hack this to…

The problem with this reasoning is that you assumed that Apple always had lots of money and that Apple always stockpile billions of cash but that is completely untrue. Back when Apple was months away from bankruptcy, Apple still had this dedication to details that we still find amazing today. I am amazed by how quickly people forgot in what position Apple was more than a decade ago. Apple caring about their products…

"caring about their products has nothing to with money. It just shows that they really care."

I almost completely agree. But IMHO "really care" includes Apple organising its business so that really caring ends up making them money, without its being zero-sum.

Re: Tell HN: MacOS turns off the fans when Siri is listening

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My work paid for the 2.8 ghz upgrade on my macbook pro 15". When doing video chat in chrome it scales up one of the cores to max and heats up quickly making the fans run at max after 10-15 min. My older macbook pro 15" with the stock CPU doesn't get as hot and the fans run much less on that one.

FWIW, I (ironically?) have a lot more success running Hangouts on Safari than I do Chrome, on both a 2013 11" Air and a 13" i7 MBP.

I'll give it a shot.

Re: Tell HN: MacOS turns off the fans when Siri is listening

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That is not true. SMS messages arrive as long as the phone is online, regardless of location.

I've never seen this behavior with my own devices, and cursory searching turns up similar results. Certainly I could be wrong, so can you point me to any references that describe the "proximity not required" behavior?

Well no. I had my iPad on a trip and left my phone at home plugged into the wall. Could send and receive text messages without problems
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