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Hipmunk (YC S10) Acquired by Concur

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Re: Hipmunk (YC S10) Acquired by Concur

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Hipmunk has been an excellent flight search tool, the best I have found as of a few years ago. Shockingly better than most of the rest of them back when it started, in terms of being able to understand and choose among numerous choices. Unfortunately, that was then and this is now. Several of the airlines have dropped out of participating in flight comparison sites, and those that do apparently pay staggeringly littl…

> Several of the airlines have dropped out of participating in flight comparison sites, and those that do apparently pay staggeringly little per referral. This is greatly eroded the usefulness of Hipmunk and similar sites, and taken away the motivation for anyone to pressure airlines to participate.

This sounds like something for the Justice Department to get involved in.

Re: Hipmunk (YC S10) Acquired by Concur

#62

Hipmunk has been an excellent flight search tool, the best I have found as of a few years ago. Shockingly better than most of the rest of them back when it started, in terms of being able to understand and choose among numerous choices. Unfortunately, that was then and this is now. Several of the airlines have dropped out of participating in flight comparison sites, and those that do apparently pay staggeringly littl…

> Several of the airlines have dropped out of participating in flight comparison sites, and those that do apparently pay staggeringly little per referral. This is greatly eroded the usefulness of Hipmunk and similar sites, and taken away the motivation for anyone to pressure airlines to participate. This sounds like something for the Justice Department to get involved in.

No, it definitely does not.

Re: Hipmunk (YC S10) Acquired by Concur

#63

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Have you tried flights.google.com?

Flights.google appears to have the same problem as the rest: * Awful, text list of flights. I want a way to visualize the options, to wisely choose from many options. * Subset of the airlines. Google still has Delta at least, which has disappeared from Hipmunk and some others. But no Southwest.

Southwest doesn't share their data.

Re: Hipmunk (YC S10) Acquired by Concur

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Concur is quite possibly one of the worst UI's I've ever used, right up there with IBM Rational Atria ClearQuest or IBM Lotus Notes.

I have no idea what Rational Atria ClearQuest but the name alone tells me it's awful.

I used to use Clearquest when I worked for a bank to hook up to their DB2 and Oracle databases. It was HORRID.

I got to use it with their own homebaked IDE, Rational Developer and VCS, called Rational Clearcase.

I look back at those years and still get shivers down my spine.

Re: Hipmunk (YC S10) Acquired by Concur

#65

Hipmunk has been an excellent flight search tool, the best I have found as of a few years ago. Shockingly better than most of the rest of them back when it started, in terms of being able to understand and choose among numerous choices. Unfortunately, that was then and this is now. Several of the airlines have dropped out of participating in flight comparison sites, and those that do apparently pay staggeringly littl…

What is the best flight search these days?

ITA Matrix.

Re: Hipmunk (YC S10) Acquired by Concur

#66

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What is the best flight search these days?

Google flights or matrix.itasoftware.com (you can't book here though)

I also use google flights but I thought google flights was created after Google acquired ITA software. Isn't it ITA's backend behind google.com/flights?

Re: Hipmunk (YC S10) Acquired by Concur

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Disclaimer: I work at Kiwi.com. At https://kiwi.com we combine flights ourselves instead of just taking the combinations from the big guys, you should try it out with a few queries. Not being limited to airline agreements when connecting flights can really drive the price down or make obscure routes viable.

Who protects the consumer when weather or FAA traffic management makes you miss your connecting flight?

Obviously adequate connection time between flights is an important factor. Especially important if you're traveling with kids.

Re: Hipmunk (YC S10) Acquired by Concur

#69

My sincere condolences to all the option holding employees of Hipmunk who will not likely get back what they gave up in salary (due to liquidation preferences and the like, they will be lucky if they get anything, other than golden handcuffs.) 20 years and no equity has taught me that next time I do a start up, I want restricted stock, not options, with an exercise price of $0.01. Or founder stock. In fact, I think t…

Whats the difference between and RSU, founder shares and options to buy common shares? If there is liquidation preference on the preferred stock, you'll stick get nailed. Most raises only have the 1x liquidity preference as founders don't want to screw themselves as their shares sit in the common pool.

Re: Hipmunk (YC S10) Acquired by Concur

#70

Hipmunk has been an excellent flight search tool, the best I have found as of a few years ago. Shockingly better than most of the rest of them back when it started, in terms of being able to understand and choose among numerous choices. Unfortunately, that was then and this is now. Several of the airlines have dropped out of participating in flight comparison sites, and those that do apparently pay staggeringly littl…

Disclaimer: I work at flightfox.com.

What I think you’re asking for already exists. You didn’t mention price, which makes a big difference, but price aside, route data is available in both raw and GUI form. Check out flightconnections.com for a GUI tool.

Price is what consumers care about and without a perfectly efficient (or regulated or monopolized) market, there will never be a single source of all prices for all routes. This doesn’t exist for food, clothing or many genuine commodities.

Someone else replied with a link to ITAs white-paper that discusses the difficulty of the problem you’ve described. But, that only considers cash flights; what about fast trains, frequent flier miles, buying and using points, credit card bonuses, best rate guarantees, combining low cost-carriers, charter airlines, cargo flights, consolidator deals, local deals, company benefits, etc.

It’s a huge market that feels like it should be commoditized but is actually quite differentiated with significant barriers to entry.

My personal experience at Flightfox is overseeing the booking of travel for more than 60,000 people using travel websites rather than traditional GDSs (Global Distribution Systems - what travel agencies and online travel agents use). Our team has used most of the websites mentioned here and never relies on just one.

Most coders here could build a simple tool to make their searches much more effective and efficient:

  * Accept date/route/class input, like “10SEP DEN-FRA first”
  * Open tabs to 5-10 of the best and most varied travel websites
  * Skim the results and book
Doing this rather than sticking to a single site will yield much better results and make your search more efficient. The largest OTAs have real proprietary deals, the best of the aggregators search the best search engines, and the best search engines combine the most airlines (even LCCs) in creative ways.

If I had to choose 5 flight websites for such a tool: Kayak, Google, Orbitz, Skyscanner and Momondo.

Given this, you may wonder what’s the point of Flightfox. We started with a pure focus on travel hacks (much more advanced than searching 5 OTAs), but we now do our best work managing travel for businesses. For consumers, we can only use one skill: saving money. For businesses, we can become their entire travel department and put everything we know into practice. Not just saving many $1000s/month, but helping with finance strategy, loyalty programs, upgrades, 24/7 emergency support, super-cheap business/first, etc.

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