Elon Musk was right.
We are becoming Gods that create Gods using code,
(link: https://github.com/JordanMicahBennett/God)
...BUT we probably WON'T be the INFINITE, OMNISCIENT kind.
Elon Musk was right. We are becoming Gods that create Gods using code
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Re: Elon Musk was right. We are becoming Gods that create Gods using code
#2Perhaps God-like beings are the inevitable end-state of our universe, and are now reaching back through time in order to minimize the suffering needed to reach said state, influencing the trajectory of the universe in whatever ways they can (whilst under consistency constraints). See retro-causality.
Re: Elon Musk was right. We are becoming Gods that create Gods using code
#3Perhaps God-like beings are the inevitable end-state of our universe, and are now reaching back through time in order to minimize the suffering needed to reach said state, influencing the trajectory of the universe in whatever ways they can (whilst under consistency constraints). See retro-causality.
And perhaps this is a bunch of mystic BS. If you're going to believe in God, believe in God. If you're going to be an atheist, be an atheist. Don't tell yourself just-so stories to try to give yourself the feeling that something "divine-like" is maybe there.
Re: Elon Musk was right. We are becoming Gods that create Gods using code
#4Perhaps God-like beings are the inevitable end-state of our universe, and are now reaching back through time in order to minimize the suffering needed to reach said state, influencing the trajectory of the universe in whatever ways they can (whilst under consistency constraints). See retro-causality.
And perhaps this is a bunch of mystic BS. If you're going to believe in God, believe in God. If you're going to be an atheist, be an atheist. Don't tell yourself just-so stories to try to give yourself the feeling that something "divine-like" is maybe there.
Why not?
Absolutely believing in god and absolutely NOT believing in god are just as arbitrary as believing something in the middle. 'Just-so' stories aren't inherently inferior.
Believe what you want.
Re: Elon Musk was right. We are becoming Gods that create Gods using code
#5Earlier quoted context omitted.
And perhaps this is a bunch of mystic BS. If you're going to believe in God, believe in God. If you're going to be an atheist, be an atheist. Don't tell yourself just-so stories to try to give yourself the feeling that something "divine-like" is maybe there.
Why not? Absolutely believing in god and absolutely NOT believing in god are just as arbitrary as believing something in the middle. 'Just-so' stories aren't inherently inferior. Believe what you want.
No, believe what you think the evidence says. (And if you believe that the evidence is inconclusive, then be an agnostic.)
Re: Elon Musk was right. We are becoming Gods that create Gods using code
#6Perhaps God-like beings are the inevitable end-state of our universe, and are now reaching back through time in order to minimize the suffering needed to reach said state, influencing the trajectory of the universe in whatever ways they can (whilst under consistency constraints). See retro-causality.
And perhaps this is a bunch of mystic BS. If you're going to believe in God, believe in God. If you're going to be an atheist, be an atheist. Don't tell yourself just-so stories to try to give yourself the feeling that something "divine-like" is maybe there.
The two stories you mention: "There is a God", "There isn't a God" do not seem to capture reality adequately. I believe in something more akin to "Brahman". The story I told above was just a fun what-if story, and I don't claim I have any insight into it's truth, or how you could even go about proving it.
Re: Elon Musk was right. We are becoming Gods that create Gods using code
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
And perhaps this is a bunch of mystic BS. If you're going to believe in God, believe in God. If you're going to be an atheist, be an atheist. Don't tell yourself just-so stories to try to give yourself the feeling that something "divine-like" is maybe there.
The two stories you mention: "There is a God", "There isn't a God" do not seem to capture reality adequately. I believe in something more akin to "Brahman". The story I told above was just a fun what-if story, and I don't claim I have any insight into it's truth, or how you could even go about proving it.
You are conscious, because your mind is conscious, and your mind is a part of you.
The universe is conscious, because you are conscious, you are a part of the universe.
Brahman is also conscious, because universe is conscious, and the universe is a part of Brahman.
I'm not Hindu, but this is pretty conclusive proof.
Re: Elon Musk was right. We are becoming Gods that create Gods using code
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why not? Absolutely believing in god and absolutely NOT believing in god are just as arbitrary as believing something in the middle. 'Just-so' stories aren't inherently inferior. Believe what you want.
No, believe what you think the evidence says. (And if you believe that the evidence is inconclusive, then be an agnostic.)
"Belief" implies agreeing with or without evidence, otherwise it would be fact - no need for belief.
Even if it wasn't so, the evidence IS inconclusive.
I think our hacker, left-brain bias leads to dismissing anything that isn't cold fact, as invalid. I BELIEVE validity rises from people's experiences, so a little benefit-of-doubt goes a long way to respecting people's experiences.
Re: Elon Musk was right. We are becoming Gods that create Gods using code
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
The two stories you mention: "There is a God", "There isn't a God" do not seem to capture reality adequately. I believe in something more akin to "Brahman". The story I told above was just a fun what-if story, and I don't claim I have any insight into it's truth, or how you could even go about proving it.
You are conscious, because your mind is conscious, and your mind is a part of you. The universe is conscious, because you are conscious, you are a part of the universe. Brahman is also conscious, because universe is conscious, and the universe is a part of Brahman. I'm not Hindu, but this is pretty conclusive proof.
Well, I don't look at it that way.
To put it in object-oriented terms: I am my mind and my body. Think of inheritance here: I am my mind, and I am my body. Because my mind is conscious, it's fine to say that I am conscious.
But the universe is more like a container (a set, say). It isn't its contents, it merely has them. So while I am part of the universe, and I am conscious, that doesn't mean that the universe is conscious. Instead, it contains consciousness.
> Brahman is also conscious, because universe is conscious, and the universe is a part of Brahman.
Objection, your honor. Assumes facts not in evidence.
And: I'm not Hindu either, but I'm not sure, within Hinduism, whether Brahman is conscious.
Re: Elon Musk was right. We are becoming Gods that create Gods using code
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are conscious, because your mind is conscious, and your mind is a part of you. The universe is conscious, because you are conscious, you are a part of the universe. Brahman is also conscious, because universe is conscious, and the universe is a part of Brahman. I'm not Hindu, but this is pretty conclusive proof.
Well, I don't look at it that way. To put it in object-oriented terms: I am my mind and my body. Think of inheritance here: I am my mind, and I am my body. Because my mind is conscious, it's fine to say that I am conscious. But the universe is more like a container (a set, say). It isn't its contents, it merely has them. So while I am part of the universe, and I am conscious, that doesn't mean that the universe is co…
Ahh. One day you will realise from my point of view all of you is inseparable from the universe - your mind is just atoms like a plant. Are we saying the atoms in your mind are coloured and in a separate space time to the rest of the universe? From when do the food you eat to when you digest them, do they separate from the universe into you? Unless you mean atoms aren't part of the universe, and then neither is energy because atom is just energy in a specific form. In that case I think you meant to use the word "space", not universe? Because the definition of universe is "The Universe is all of time and space and its contents".
So the only explanation I can understand where you can be separate from the universe is, if you weren't a content of this universe and I'm speaking to a super-natural being.
Otherwise, if you aren't supernatural, then all of you is a part of the universe, and that makes the universe at least as conscious as you are.'
The only reach from universe to Brahman, is whether there are multiple universes, or is this the only one.
In my opinion, all positions besides Pantheism or Panentheism are illogical.