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WADA Confirms Attack by Russian Cyber Espionage Group

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Re: WADA Confirms Attack by Russian Cyber Espionage Group

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Post by sillysaurus3 »

Taek wrote: post #13
helloworld wrote: post #6

Sadly, I conclude that devices connected to the Internet are irremediably insecure. Air-gap it or lose it, I guess.

That is ultimately too pessimistic. Security is a gradient, and there's a lot you can do make yourself both a smaller target, and a harder target. Compartmentalization is one of the strongest defense tools we have. For example, with the icloud leaks an attacker was able to gain access to all the data in a single strike. If it's true that Apple can no longer decrypt user's icloud data, an attacker now needs to hack pe…

helloworld's assessment is realistic when people's lives are on the line. That doesn't happen too often, but when it does, are you sure you'd trust a gradient?

Re: WADA Confirms Attack by Russian Cyber Espionage Group

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Post by bsder »

ezhik_ wrote: post #16

Why the hell US government, US media and pro-US organizations (ex. WADA) says that the Russian government was behind all hacking attacks in the last 6 month (maybe year or even more)? It sounds like a broken joke from 60s... Yes, I'm Russian. Yes, I live in Russia. And Yes, I like my country.

> Why the hell US government, US media and pro-US organizations (ex. WADA) says that the Russian government was behind all hacking attacks in the last 6 month (maybe year or even more)? It sounds like a broken joke from 60s...

You are likely on solid ground accusing the US government of using Russia as an excuse.

When you accuse WADA of being "pro-US"; however, you lose all your credibility.

Re: WADA Confirms Attack by Russian Cyber Espionage Group

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Post by jonah »

ThinkBeat wrote: post #5
NN88 wrote: post #3

This is insanity...and whats worse, is Russian state-media are trying to say they were doping...theres NO doping on those charts.

As far as leaks go I find it interesting. We see that athletes are allowed to take some very strong and beneficial drugs and its not doping. I had always pictured that "clean" athletes were not eating OxyContin or required vast amounts of asthma medication to make it through the day. (This last part if from a different disclosure). I think an adjustment to the current regiment would be that each athlete disclose exac…

Maybe we could let athletes take (and disclose) anything they wanted. Then we could develop a handicapping system similar to balance of power in Motorsport. It'd allow for more dimensions of strategy. Would be interesting to see how that would play out.

Re: WADA Confirms Attack by Russian Cyber Espionage Group

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Post by __jal »

ThinkBeat wrote: post #5
NN88 wrote: post #3

This is insanity...and whats worse, is Russian state-media are trying to say they were doping...theres NO doping on those charts.

As far as leaks go I find it interesting. We see that athletes are allowed to take some very strong and beneficial drugs and its not doping. I had always pictured that "clean" athletes were not eating OxyContin or required vast amounts of asthma medication to make it through the day. (This last part if from a different disclosure). I think an adjustment to the current regiment would be that each athlete disclose exac…

Just like nearly any moral line, morals here are contingent. I think it is hardly necessary to point out the arbitrariness of which recreational drugs are illegal, with one of the most dangerous being legal and considered moral in moderation.

As far as sports drugs, I honestly don't care about it, not being someone who watches or participates in any of them. But I strongly suspect that we'll see the "ok"/"not ok" lines being drawn towards maximizing viewers, perhaps with a sop towards athlete-health down the list somewhere.

I also predict that conversations about doping will sometime soon indirectly put enough pressure on the US NFL to cause it serious problems about player brain injury. It is hard to worry about player health regarding drugs and ignore the people broken by other aspects of the games.

Re: WADA Confirms Attack by Russian Cyber Espionage Group

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Post by kalsk »

helloworld wrote: post #6

Sadly, I conclude that devices connected to the Internet are irremediably insecure. Air-gap it or lose it, I guess.

In this case there wasn't even a real security vulnerability, just a spear-phishing attack. Organizations need to hold employees accountable for their own stupidity if they want to prevent this from happening. Any sane organization would fire an employee who gave a stranger keys to the office; falling for a phishing scam is the online equivalent of that.

Re: WADA Confirms Attack by Russian Cyber Espionage Group

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Post by smaili »

While it is an evolving situation, at present, we believe that access to ADAMS was obtained through spear phishing of email accounts; whereby, ADAMS passwords were obtained enabling access to ADAMS account information confined to the Rio 2016 Games.

It's amazing that people are still being phished successfully.

Re: WADA Confirms Attack by Russian Cyber Espionage Group

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Post by Havoc »

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #21
Taek wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is ultimately too pessimistic. Security is a gradient, and there's a lot you can do make yourself both a smaller target, and a harder target. Compartmentalization is one of the strongest defense tools we have. For example, with the icloud leaks an attacker was able to gain access to all the data in a single strike. If it's true that Apple can no longer decrypt user's icloud data, an attacker now needs to hack pe…

helloworld's assessment is realistic when people's lives are on the line. That doesn't happen too often, but when it does, are you sure you'd trust a gradient?

Sure. Lives are on the line constantly @ gradient. Eg drive a car where a safety feature was omitted because it's uneconomical

Re: WADA Confirms Attack by Russian Cyber Espionage Group

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Post by bsder »

kushti wrote: post #20

How WADA can distinguish Russian group from any other? How anti-doping agency becomes proficient in cyber security?

Likely the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (Canada's Federal Police Force) given that WADA is based in Montreal.

The quote from the article:

"WADA has been informed by law enforcement authorities that these attacks are originating out of Russia,” he continued."

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