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Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgres [pdf]

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Re: Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgres [pdf]

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Yandex is doing quite some interesting things, I think they don't get enough love from HN.

It's not a malicious bias, but a bias nonetheless. We tend to show more love towards services we know of, use, hear about, or have a friend work at. That Yandex chiefly targets the Russian, other Cyrillic, and Turkish markets limits its exposure to people who aren't in those markets. And some of it has to do with the kitchen-sink nature of what Yandex does (a lot of tech and some media), in that it's easy to mistake…

Never heard that expression, kitchen-sink, what does it mean?

Re: Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgres [pdf]

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Yandex is doing quite some interesting things, I think they don't get enough love from HN.

Yandex doesn't seem like it would appeal to the kinds of people who comment here. If you think that having your data hosted in the USA is a privacy concern, imagine having it hosted in Moscow.

You seem to think that having your data hosted in Moscow is a worse privacy concern than in USA? That's a joke. You realise that google just made location tracking mandatory for anyone using maps or app store, right? The USA is way worse in this respect. Or let me re-phrase that: we know for a FACT that the USA is very very bad in this respect, whereas Russian just has a bad reputation.

Re: Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgres [pdf]

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It's not a malicious bias, but a bias nonetheless. We tend to show more love towards services we know of, use, hear about, or have a friend work at. That Yandex chiefly targets the Russian, other Cyrillic, and Turkish markets limits its exposure to people who aren't in those markets. And some of it has to do with the kitchen-sink nature of what Yandex does (a lot of tech and some media), in that it's easy to mistake…

Never heard that expression, kitchen-sink, what does it mean?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=kitchen+sink

Re: Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgres [pdf]

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It's not a malicious bias, but a bias nonetheless. We tend to show more love towards services we know of, use, hear about, or have a friend work at. That Yandex chiefly targets the Russian, other Cyrillic, and Turkish markets limits its exposure to people who aren't in those markets. And some of it has to do with the kitchen-sink nature of what Yandex does (a lot of tech and some media), in that it's easy to mistake…

Never heard that expression, kitchen-sink, what does it mean?

it comes from the phrase "Everything but the Kitchen Sink." So "kitchen sink" becomes a shorthand reference for the above phrase, which itself means, "a whole bunch of random stuff all collected together"

Re: Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgres [pdf]

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It's not a malicious bias, but a bias nonetheless. We tend to show more love towards services we know of, use, hear about, or have a friend work at. That Yandex chiefly targets the Russian, other Cyrillic, and Turkish markets limits its exposure to people who aren't in those markets. And some of it has to do with the kitchen-sink nature of what Yandex does (a lot of tech and some media), in that it's easy to mistake…

Never heard that expression, kitchen-sink, what does it mean?

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Re: Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgres [pdf]

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It's not a malicious bias, but a bias nonetheless. We tend to show more love towards services we know of, use, hear about, or have a friend work at. That Yandex chiefly targets the Russian, other Cyrillic, and Turkish markets limits its exposure to people who aren't in those markets. And some of it has to do with the kitchen-sink nature of what Yandex does (a lot of tech and some media), in that it's easy to mistake…

Never heard that expression, kitchen-sink, what does it mean?

It technically means 'everything, whether necessary or not' [1][2], but the subtext and context I intended it in is that their range of services is forms an extremely wide spread, which could be mistaken for a lack of focus.

[1] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/everything_but_the_kitchen_si...

[2] http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/everyt...

Re: Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgres [pdf]

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Yandex is doing quite some interesting things, I think they don't get enough love from HN.

Yandex doesn't seem like it would appeal to the kinds of people who comment here. If you think that having your data hosted in the USA is a privacy concern, imagine having it hosted in Moscow.

They moved most of their hosting to Amsterdam (and Stockholm?) 2-3 years ago, I heard. Since then the founder has been forced out by Putin, so I guess it might be back in Moscow now though. (Haven't really had any semi-inside information for the past year.)

Re: Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgres [pdf]

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It's not a malicious bias, but a bias nonetheless. We tend to show more love towards services we know of, use, hear about, or have a friend work at. That Yandex chiefly targets the Russian, other Cyrillic, and Turkish markets limits its exposure to people who aren't in those markets. And some of it has to do with the kitchen-sink nature of what Yandex does (a lot of tech and some media), in that it's easy to mistake…

Never heard that expression, kitchen-sink, what does it mean?

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Re: Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgres [pdf]

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Yandex doesn't seem like it would appeal to the kinds of people who comment here. If you think that having your data hosted in the USA is a privacy concern, imagine having it hosted in Moscow.

You seem to think that having your data hosted in Moscow is a worse privacy concern than in USA? That's a joke. You realise that google just made location tracking mandatory for anyone using maps or app store, right? The USA is way worse in this respect. Or let me re-phrase that: we know for a FACT that the USA is very very bad in this respect, whereas Russian just has a bad reputation.

I absolutely think that data hosted in Moscow is a worse privacy concern, yes - because while I don't doubt the governments of both countries are spying on that data, I trust the US government far more than I trust the Russian government.

A useful series of tweets by @SwiftOnSecurity about why storing data in the US isn't a bad idea:

https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/77549120598337126...

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