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Re: Vim 8.0 released

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kozikow wrote: post #35
oblio wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would move to Spacemacs if it had the possibility for using a tabbed interface similar to GVim's. Ideally something already built in, mature, and one which wouldn't need any hand holding during operation. Vim's tabbed interface is quite good, it's basically Vim + a Vim-specific stacking window manager.

There is vim-like tabs implementation for evil users: https://github.com/krisajenkins/evil-tabs . I personally use emacs-native way, window-configuration-to-register: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/WindowsAndRegisters

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Re: Vim 8.0 released

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Post by kozikow »

oblio wrote: post #38
kozikow wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is vim-like tabs implementation for evil users: https://github.com/krisajenkins/evil-tabs . I personally use emacs-native way, window-configuration-to-register: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/WindowsAndRegisters

(I see you've edited your comment meanwhile but I'll leave my comment here for reference) I've seen some of these but I don't think any of them actually follow the tabbed interface paradigm: * visible tab bar, preferably at the top and preferably style-able so that it doesn't look like it's out of Windows 3.11 * dynamic tab names based on file contents (in case of multiple buffers, show the name of the currently focu…

For future reference, evil-tabs is just skin over elscreen.

I created tmux-like keybindings, leveraging hydra and helm for some commands: https://gist.github.com/kozikow/58b46c45a2c24406dc7cde3f1861... .

Re: Vim 8.0 released

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Post by Shoop »

mod wrote: post #172
pklausler wrote: post #150

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Me, I just wrote my own editor that works exactly the way that I want it to work. Every Jedi needs to build their own light saber, and come on, it's just 6KLOC or so.

Link a repo, I'd love to check it out. I've never even considered what goes into making an editor.

Not OP but https://github.com/pklausler/aoeui

Re: Vim 8.0 released

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Post by hackuser »

reflexive wrote: post #148
znpy wrote: post #8

Given the occasion, and given that vim is charity-ware software ( http://charityware.info/ ), it would be cool to have some sort of HN-wide donation to ICCF ( http://iccf-holland.org/ ). Donation page: http://iccf-holland.org/donate.html It seems that you can send bitcoins too: http://iccf-holland.org/bitcoin.html Imho just mentioning HN in the payment description would be okay :)

I understand that assisting AIDS sufferers in Uganda is a favorite cause of Bram Moolenaar. However in the absence of an overall plan to help the country develop, such short-term interventions may be a net harm to the very populations they're intended to help. http://www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/2161334... I would encourage folks to read up on factors surrounding the causes they support. Perhaps orga…

I agree with the general point, and I believe it's well-established, that aid can have second-order and higher order effects that are counter-productive. On the other hand, in this case it's merely FUD and an argument for inaction; we would need specific information about Moolenaar's charity. I'm not going to stand still and do nothing just in case.

Second-order effects also can make donations to the Free Software Conservancy counter-productive.

As an aside, I wonder if the Free Software Conservancy would want to be seen telling people not to donate to Ugandan AIDS victims and to redirect the money to themselves. My guess is they would not like to see their name here.

> emotional appeal

Life and death has appeal beyond 'mere' emotion. It's more important than free software, and I say that as an avid fan of, and occasional donor and contributor to FOSS projects.

EDIT: A rewording or two

Re: Vim 8.0 released

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Post by qwertyuiop924 »

Lio wrote: post #188
kozikow wrote: post #177

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> At some point you have drop out of the pseudo Vim world do things the Emacs way, keybindings and all. or many packages there are many "vim-optimized" packages nowadays, e.g. evil-ediff, evil-org or evil-magit. > e.g. I like to use C-h as an alternative to backspace, it helps relieves my RSA not have to reach for backspace. I would do such remapping on the system level. E.g. I personally have my layout implemented i…

Yeah I'm pretty sure Emacs can be made to do anything. I love that idea and I keep telling myself I'll go back and give give it another try sometime. Would love to get really into org-mode, etc. It's just that Vim is so comfortable! ...like a nice old pair of Goodyear welted shoes.

As much as I've been complaining about Vim in this thread, I don't think it's evil, or anything. But I do love Emaca as much as you love Vi, for much the same reasons (although some of those one character commands make me envious). You could always use both (the non-religious option).

Come to the dark side. We have macros.

Re: Vim 8.0 released

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Post by DiabloD3 »

zerr wrote: post #135
DiabloD3 wrote: post #55

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Given Vim powers our industry, it'd be neat if pg or any of the other big members of our community donated a non-trivial amount. There is very few pieces of software I could never imagine replacing in my toolkit. Linux? I use Windows, too. GCC? Clang gets some love sometimes. Languages themselves? I'm fluent in several. Shell? I used Bash for years, now I switched to ZSH, but could go back to Bash if I needed. Tmux?…

So you see the comfort of using IDE (eclipse or intellij) with languages such as Java. Do you feel a similar comfort in vim? with which languages?

Java and C# were both designed to be used in language specific IDEs (C# inheriting that from Java). Using Java outside of a Java IDE is insane.

C, C++, Python, Ruby, JS, Erlang, Perl, etc, just require a relatively sane text editor, no full scale heavy weight IDE features needed. So, yeah, vim does everything I need there.

Re: Vim 8.0 released

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Post by easuter »

pklausler wrote: post #150
HugoDaniel wrote: post #41

I moved to nvi. Feels good to go back a notch and realise that you actually don't need all of the other stuff to produce quality code.

Me, I just wrote my own editor that works exactly the way that I want it to work. Every Jedi needs to build their own light saber, and come on, it's just 6KLOC or so.

Me, I wrote my own OS.

Every real Jedi needs to build their own light saber, and come on, it's just 100KLOC or so.

Re: Vim 8.0 released

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Post by owaislone »

Great! I've been using neovim for the last year and it is pretty awesome. Hope 8.0 bring similar improvements to Vim as well. Hopefully, they'll merge back some day but even if they don't, I think neovim is here to stay. It has had amazing progress and so many contributions.
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