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Re: Vim 8.0 released

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Post by wodenokoto »

mden wrote: post #141
dleslie wrote: post #130

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Soon NeoVim will no longer update regularly because Vim has caught up and/or surpassed it with every feature that matters... By that time Emacs will have replaced temacs with Guile and someone clever will have added VimScript as a hosted language.

It's close, but I think NeoVim's RPC model could be huge. Writing a new frontend for vim no longer seems that crazy of a goal which makes it easier for people to experiment with new editor ideas while relying on the very solid core of vim (well at least I find that exciting, idk if the general vimmer cares).

I dream of the day that when you tick off "vim binding" in the settings of any IDE it loads neovim for controlling the buffer.

Re: Vim 8.0 released

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Post by ssalazar »

pablasso wrote: post #140
RBerenguel wrote: post #88

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Kill region, save, run/compile/read, undo if needed. With undo tree (or if you add commit to the process above) there is no need to comment just one region to turn off something. Optionally, convert the region into a separate function/method and just don't call it while checking.

You still didn't explained why it wasn't a good practice. This just sounds impractical.

Yeah, "not a good practice" (i.e. "the user is wrong" or "why would you want to do that?") is the lazy way of justifying software deficiencies.

Re: Vim 8.0 released

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Post by bowmessage »

adelarsq wrote: post #156
DiabloD3 wrote: post #55

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Given Vim powers our industry, it'd be neat if pg or any of the other big members of our community donated a non-trivial amount. There is very few pieces of software I could never imagine replacing in my toolkit. Linux? I use Windows, too. GCC? Clang gets some love sometimes. Languages themselves? I'm fluent in several. Shell? I used Bash for years, now I switched to ZSH, but could go back to Bash if I needed. Tmux?…

I'm still trying to use vim with java =P Someday I will be happy

eclim ftw

Re: Vim 8.0 released

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Post by mod »

rbonvall wrote: post #159
bmelton wrote: post #90

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Are you seriously suggesting that nano is a valid replacement for vim?

If vim for you is "the thing you edit config files with when sshing to a server," yes, it is. As a full-fledged development environment, it's not.

In the context of this thread, it is not a valid replacement.

Re: Vim 8.0 released

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Post by lysis »

DiabloD3 wrote: post #55
znpy wrote: post #8

Given the occasion, and given that vim is charity-ware software ( http://charityware.info/ ), it would be cool to have some sort of HN-wide donation to ICCF ( http://iccf-holland.org/ ). Donation page: http://iccf-holland.org/donate.html It seems that you can send bitcoins too: http://iccf-holland.org/bitcoin.html Imho just mentioning HN in the payment description would be okay :)

Given Vim powers our industry, it'd be neat if pg or any of the other big members of our community donated a non-trivial amount. There is very few pieces of software I could never imagine replacing in my toolkit. Linux? I use Windows, too. GCC? Clang gets some love sometimes. Languages themselves? I'm fluent in several. Shell? I used Bash for years, now I switched to ZSH, but could go back to Bash if I needed. Tmux?…

> I will never abandon (unless I'm doing Java, because... fuck Java outside of Eclipse or IntelliJ; and yes, I've tried using that one vimeclipse bridge, hell no)

If you're referring to eclim [0] FWIW I've found it to be an adequate way to have a vim centric workflow with a few excursions into eclipse. If you have proficiency with both tools and enjoy having an eclim server running in a eclipse window you'd get have access to the best features of both tools.

[0] http://eclim.org/

Re: Vim 8.0 released

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Post by Lxr »

mixedCase wrote: post #105
DiabloD3 wrote: post #55

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Given Vim powers our industry, it'd be neat if pg or any of the other big members of our community donated a non-trivial amount. There is very few pieces of software I could never imagine replacing in my toolkit. Linux? I use Windows, too. GCC? Clang gets some love sometimes. Languages themselves? I'm fluent in several. Shell? I used Bash for years, now I switched to ZSH, but could go back to Bash if I needed. Tmux?…

JetBrain's Vim plugin is very high quality.

It's high quality as they go but not close to being a vim substitute in my experience. There are still tons of little things that don't work as expected.

Re: Vim 8.0 released

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Post by m0shen »

adelarsq wrote: post #156
DiabloD3 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given Vim powers our industry, it'd be neat if pg or any of the other big members of our community donated a non-trivial amount. There is very few pieces of software I could never imagine replacing in my toolkit. Linux? I use Windows, too. GCC? Clang gets some love sometimes. Languages themselves? I'm fluent in several. Shell? I used Bash for years, now I switched to ZSH, but could go back to Bash if I needed. Tmux?…

I'm still trying to use vim with java =P Someday I will be happy

https://plugins.jetbrains.com/plugin/164 (IdeaVIM) is pretty good for intellij based ides.

Re: Vim 8.0 released

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Post by jjawssd »

vegabook wrote: post #97
njharman wrote: post #49

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"Stepped up to challenge" is a reactionary response. Something challenges you, your reaction is to ignore/quit or step up and respond.

you know what? I'm prepared to cut Bram Moolenaar a lot of slack given the goodness he gave us for 20 years through 7 versions of one of my top 3 pieces of useful software.

he's a great guy but at some point it's time to move on
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