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Re: Vim 8.0 released

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Post by yankcrime »

dominotw wrote: post #28
yankcrime wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're using Homebrew[1], then it's simply a case of: $ brew install --HEAD vim [1] http://brew.sh

cd /usr/local/Cellar/vim/HEAD/share/vim/vim80/compiler; chmod 644 *.vim README.txt -bash: cd: /usr/local/Cellar/vim/HEAD/share/vim/vim80/compiler: No such file or directory chmod: *.vim: No such file or directory chmod: README.txt: No such file or directory Eh..I'll probably wait a little bit longer.

Just in case - I should probably have said "It's simply a case of $ brew update && brew install --HEAD vim".

It's happily just compiled and installed for me.

Re: Vim 8.0 released

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Post by oblio »

kozikow wrote: post #11

I moved to http://wikemacs.org/wiki/Evil and I am happy with the transition. Spacemacs seems to be a good choice nowadays. Magit and org-mode are worth it.

I would move to Spacemacs if it had the possibility for using a tabbed interface similar to GVim's. Ideally something already built in, mature, and one which wouldn't need any hand holding during operation.

Vim's tabbed interface is quite good, it's basically Vim + a Vim-specific stacking window manager.

Re: Vim 8.0 released

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Post by oblio »

baq wrote: post #15
bwilliams wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't say he's stepped up. It's all a reactionary response to Neovim. I dont think we'd ever have async in vim if it weren't for the neovim project. That being said I hope they pull an io.js and merge taking the best of both vim and neovim, whatever that may be.

can't imagine that happening unless vim drops some platforms it supports.

Well, at this point in time Amiga and MS DOS should probably go.

They're served decently enough by older versions and I doubt that any machine running those has the resources for features provided by newer Vim versions. Even if they do, the OS support for these features might not be good enough.

Re: Vim 8.0 released

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Post by cschmidt »

vegabook wrote: post #18
thedz wrote: post #6

Notable improvements: - Async /Io - Async Jobs - "Packages", which allow easier built-in bundling of plugins I'm pretty excited for this release! I've been using Neovim for several months now, but really great to see mainline Vim get these (IMO long overdue) enhancements.

this async thing was Neovim's main selling point, right? I mean cruft-removal is all well and good but vim works fast and fine for me so not important. What does Neovim now offer that this doesn't?

I believe it has a complete embedded terminal

Re: Vim 8.0 released

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Post by kozikow »

oblio wrote: post #32
kozikow wrote: post #11

I moved to http://wikemacs.org/wiki/Evil and I am happy with the transition. Spacemacs seems to be a good choice nowadays. Magit and org-mode are worth it.

I would move to Spacemacs if it had the possibility for using a tabbed interface similar to GVim's. Ideally something already built in, mature, and one which wouldn't need any hand holding during operation. Vim's tabbed interface is quite good, it's basically Vim + a Vim-specific stacking window manager.

There is vim-like tabs implementation for evil users: https://github.com/krisajenkins/evil-tabs .

I personally use emacs-native way, window-configuration-to-register: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/WindowsAndRegisters

Re: Vim 8.0 released

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Post by tombert »

This is pretty rad. I've used Neovim for a few months now, but I always wanted to keep using the "official" editor due to it's support on pretty much every OS.

Async is basically the reason I used NeoVim, so it feels good to come back.

Re: Vim 8.0 released

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Post by syl20bnr »

oblio wrote: post #32
kozikow wrote: post #11

I moved to http://wikemacs.org/wiki/Evil and I am happy with the transition. Spacemacs seems to be a good choice nowadays. Magit and org-mode are worth it.

I would move to Spacemacs if it had the possibility for using a tabbed interface similar to GVim's. Ideally something already built in, mature, and one which wouldn't need any hand holding during operation. Vim's tabbed interface is quite good, it's basically Vim + a Vim-specific stacking window manager.

There is such support in Spacemacs, it is called "spacemacs layouts" but the tab is visible only on demand while pressing `SPC l`. Eyebrowse is also integrated in Spacemacs layouts so you can have multiple sub-layouts for a given layouts. Note that Spacemacs layouts also achieve buffer isolation so you can have a layout restricted to project's buffers only, you can also create your own rules to automatically add buffers to some layouts (called custom layouts). Last you can persist Spacemacs layouts across sessions.

Re: Vim 8.0 released

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Post by oblio »

kozikow wrote: post #35
oblio wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would move to Spacemacs if it had the possibility for using a tabbed interface similar to GVim's. Ideally something already built in, mature, and one which wouldn't need any hand holding during operation. Vim's tabbed interface is quite good, it's basically Vim + a Vim-specific stacking window manager.

There is vim-like tabs implementation for evil users: https://github.com/krisajenkins/evil-tabs . I personally use emacs-native way, window-configuration-to-register: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/WindowsAndRegisters

(I see you've edited your comment meanwhile but I'll leave my comment here for reference)

I've seen some of these but I don't think any of them actually follow the tabbed interface paradigm:

* visible tab bar, preferably at the top and preferably style-able so that it doesn't look like it's out of Windows 3.11

* dynamic tab names based on file contents (in case of multiple buffers, show the name of the currently focused buffer), so that there's no need for manual tab name management

* tab navigation through shortcuts (open tab, close tab, move tab left/right, etc.)

Re: Vim 8.0 released

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Post by nobleach »

desireco42 wrote: post #13
thedz wrote: post #6

Notable improvements: - Async /Io - Async Jobs - "Packages", which allow easier built-in bundling of plugins I'm pretty excited for this release! I've been using Neovim for several months now, but really great to see mainline Vim get these (IMO long overdue) enhancements.

How is Neovim working out for you? I remember using it at one point and it was really smooth experience.

I am stuck at 0.1.3 as I am unable to brew install any of the newer versions. (It craps out on some LuaJIT stuff and I haven't really had time to fight with it) Aside from having to mess with it to get CTRL-h working, it's been pretty smooth. I LOVED vimplug (the package manager) with its async installs. I have high hopes for NeoVim's future... even if that future turns out to be just giving Vim a kick in the pants to move forward.

Re: Vim 8.0 released

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Post by AdmiralAsshat »

kozikow wrote: post #11

I moved to http://wikemacs.org/wiki/Evil and I am happy with the transition. Spacemacs seems to be a good choice nowadays. Magit and org-mode are worth it.

Sublime + Vintageous for me.

More than anything, Vim for me is a really good set of keybindings.

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