Lifelogging is dead for now • Hacker News Board

Re: Lifelogging is dead for now

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Post by anentropic » Mon, Sep 12, 2016, 9:21 AM UTC

fsiefken wrote: post #3

Every 2m a snapshot of my desktop gets taken through cron for personal review later. Would be nice if I had a similar minimally socially invasive tool away from my computer. Perhaps I can just use my memory for that.

what possible use could that have?

Re: Lifelogging is dead for now

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Post by kybernetikos » Mon, Sep 12, 2016, 9:31 AM UTC

personjerry wrote: post #8

kybernetikos wrote: post #4

I absolutely would like to record everything but I'm not prepared for all that data to live in the cloud and belong to some untrustworthy tech giant.

What about a questionably trustworthy tech startup?

Theoretically yes. Practically I'd be very surprised if such a tech startup would have terms I would trust. Things I'd be looking at:

* data ownership - including in the event the startup is bought

* data access revocation - I want to be able to revoke access to my data in a meaningful way

* business plan - I want to be the customer not the product for something like this

* portability - I don't want to feel that I'm stuck using any one solution for my life.

I really don't know if such a service can be made economically viable given such a set of requirements.

Re: Lifelogging is dead for now

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Post by bitJericho » Mon, Sep 12, 2016, 9:45 AM UTC

Hard drives are so cheap why not DIY? The article implies TB of data but I find that dubious.

Re: Lifelogging is dead for now

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Post by berntb » Mon, Sep 12, 2016, 9:46 AM UTC

I always wondered what would happen to violent crime if everyone logged what happens? (If there is no obvious camera, it would be enough if 10-15% logged, for the risk to increase.)

A button sends the last minute of everything that happened to the police, along with GPS coordinates (preferably with a face recognition service)?

If your voice is needed to turn off logging, it will be obvious what happened, when knock out drugs are used in bars.

And so on.

Re: Lifelogging is dead for now

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Post by modeless » Mon, Sep 12, 2016, 9:50 AM UTC

There's a life log built into Google Maps. It's called Timeline and it's pretty neat. It annotates your raw location history with the names of places you've been and the photos you took while you were there. It's a nice benefit for those of us who don't mind letting Google store our location history.

https://www.google.com/maps/timeline

Re: Lifelogging is dead for now

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Post by sheraz » Mon, Sep 12, 2016, 9:55 AM UTC

Kiro wrote: post #6

I don't know. http://getnarrative.com/ seems pretty popular!

They went through some rough times this summer (bankruptcy/re-org) [1] and have secured some new funding [2].

Also interesting, because they are based in Sweden, you can get a look into some of their financials as well[3].

Anyone from @narrative care to comment on this?

[1] - http://blog.getnarrative.com/2016/07/narrative-initiates-a-c...

[2] - http://blog.getnarrative.com/2016/07/first-round-of-funding-...

[3] - http://www.allabolag.se/5568709520/Narrative_AB

Re: Lifelogging is dead for now

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Post by ghaff » Mon, Sep 12, 2016, 10:18 AM UTC

berntb wrote: post #14

I always wondered what would happen to violent crime if everyone logged what happens? (If there is no obvious camera, it would be enough if 10-15% logged, for the risk to increase.) A button sends the last minute of everything that happened to the police, along with GPS coordinates (preferably with a face recognition service)? If your voice is needed to turn off logging, it will be obvious what happened, when knock o…

See The Circle by David Eggers for a fictional account. I'm not sure I really recommend the book as SF, but it's an interesting read if taken as a deliberately over-the-top "if this goes on" sort of fable.

Re: Lifelogging is dead for now

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Post by pjc50 » Mon, Sep 12, 2016, 10:27 AM UTC

berntb wrote: post #14

I always wondered what would happen to violent crime if everyone logged what happens? (If there is no obvious camera, it would be enough if 10-15% logged, for the risk to increase.) A button sends the last minute of everything that happened to the police, along with GPS coordinates (preferably with a face recognition service)? If your voice is needed to turn off logging, it will be obvious what happened, when knock o…

Selective enforcement goes through the ceiling, as there's suddenly far more "crime" than anyone knows what to do with.

Re: Lifelogging is dead for now

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Post by severine » Mon, Sep 12, 2016, 10:27 AM UTC

kybernetikos wrote: post #12

personjerry wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about a questionably trustworthy tech startup?

Theoretically yes. Practically I'd be very surprised if such a tech startup would have terms I would trust. Things I'd be looking at: * data ownership - including in the event the startup is bought * data access revocation - I want to be able to revoke access to my data in a meaningful way * business plan - I want to be the customer not the product for something like this * portability - I don't want to feel that I'm…

Take a look Su Sandstorm.

Re: Lifelogging is dead for now

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Post by kbody » Mon, Sep 12, 2016, 10:31 AM UTC

personjerry wrote: post #8

kybernetikos wrote: post #4

I absolutely would like to record everything but I'm not prepared for all that data to live in the cloud and belong to some untrustworthy tech giant.

What about a questionably trustworthy tech startup?

Zero knowledge encryption's adaption is on the rise, seems like an ideal use-case to me. It will be restrictive or rather complex and will require more work but if you want to work with this kind of data, this should be a requirement imo (in the future).