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Re: Pixar Studio Stories: The Movie Vanishes

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Post by yardie » Wed, Apr 07, 2010, 5:06 PM UTC

jakarta wrote: post #27

far33d wrote: post #22

I hate posting about Pixar stories because the Steve Jobs omerta still lives strong in me... but what the hell. I couldn't watch the video because I'm on a train - however, I worked at Pixar from 2002 - 2008, so I'm pretty sure I know exactly what this video is about. This story was legendary inside the studio - I never thought it would get outside the gates. In some ways, the fact that this had happened in the past,…

Have you read The Pixar Touch? If so - what did you think? The feeling I got from the book, was that Steve Jobs was really bad when it came to the vision for Pixar. He had 0 faith in their movie making abilities, but the Pixar team managed to 'wag the dog' long enough for them to actually produce movies and validate their reason for being to the rest of the world.

The guy wrote million dollar checks every year for 10 years to keep that company running. If that's not a big leap of faith ( losing money for a decade?!) then what do you consider faith.

Re: Pixar Studio Stories: The Movie Vanishes

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Post by jakarta » Wed, Apr 07, 2010, 6:56 PM UTC

yardie wrote: post #31

jakarta wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you read The Pixar Touch? If so - what did you think? The feeling I got from the book, was that Steve Jobs was really bad when it came to the vision for Pixar. He had 0 faith in their movie making abilities, but the Pixar team managed to 'wag the dog' long enough for them to actually produce movies and validate their reason for being to the rest of the world.

The guy wrote million dollar checks every year for 10 years to keep that company running. If that's not a big leap of faith ( losing money for a decade?!) then what do you consider faith.

The vibe I got from the book, which is why I asked the OP's opinion was that Steve Jobs did not believe in their movie business, his vision was that Pixar would market computers capable of producing Pixar-level graphics to ordinary consumers. He didn't see Pixar as a movie studio.

But the folks at Pixar wanted to make movies. So what they did was convince him that by doing work on movies and commercials, they could advertise the capabilities of their tools.

Eventually, they were able to buy enough time to get their work recognized and the Toy Story deal going which validated their vision and won Steve Jobs over to the movie studio idea.

Re: Pixar Studio Stories: The Movie Vanishes

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Post by PostOnce » Wed, Apr 07, 2010, 9:18 PM UTC

dschobel wrote: post #25

PostOnce wrote: post #17

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It's not Ebola, and these are all people who worked on Toy Story. John Carmack isn't going to leak Doom 4. I'm pretty sure he can be trusted with that one. Why would you give away your life's work to some thieving bastard on the internet who you'd never met and didn't care about you, anyway?

Not John Carmack, but what about a junior dev? What about the QA people? How far down the chain do you go with who gets to take a copy home? On a large operation you can't rule out the bitter ex-employee factor either.

If you were a junior programmer at id, would you torrent your work? I doubt it. Leaks nearly always come from outside the company, meaning copies sent to reviewers etc.

If you have a guy working for you who would leak something you're working on, the solution isn't to not allow people to take things home, it's to fire people who would harm your company.