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Samsung, CPSC Say Galaxy Note 7 Owners Should Stop Using Them

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Re: Samsung, CPSC Say Galaxy Note 7 Owners Should Stop Using Them

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In fact, the lack of replaceable batteries is now becoming a consumer safety issue. Every city has a bomb squad who can isolate and destroy potentially explosive materials. This type of issue can be sorted out much more quickly, and much more safely, by having people turn in flawed lithium batteries to the local bomb squad. Further, if the batteries were standard sizes then there would likely be replacement batteries…

I'd appreciate it if someone with expertise can comment on why the market shifted to non-replaceable batteries. I know the suspicion that it's for planned obsolescence, but does someone really know?

My impression is that replaceable batteries limit the shapes, materials and engineering that can be used, reducing capacity while increasing weight and size. For example a replaceable battery must be safely handled by end users, shaped and placed so it can be easily removed, and its connection is limited to something quickly and easily utilized.

Re: Samsung, CPSC Say Galaxy Note 7 Owners Should Stop Using Them

#32
post #2

A good argument for having replaceable batteries is that this recall could be done by just sending new batteries to everyone. Now, they have to replace entire devices.

No, it's an argument for better QA.

Specifications are also susceptible to QA.

  Issue #1234: Idiotic non-removable battery
  Phase found: Requirements
  ...

Re: Samsung, CPSC Say Galaxy Note 7 Owners Should Stop Using Them

#33
post #6

In fact, the lack of replaceable batteries is now becoming a consumer safety issue. Every city has a bomb squad who can isolate and destroy potentially explosive materials. This type of issue can be sorted out much more quickly, and much more safely, by having people turn in flawed lithium batteries to the local bomb squad. Further, if the batteries were standard sizes then there would likely be replacement batteries…

This is one of the most rational arguments for replaceable batteries. Thank you for clearly explaining it.

It might happen that China realises this first and legislates, same like they did with chargers.

Re: Samsung, CPSC Say Galaxy Note 7 Owners Should Stop Using Them

#34
post #22
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unlikely to happen. It's one of the few places that phones can differentiate themselves so manufacturers are unlikely to want to lose that option to tinker with.

Given it's a clear safety issue they shouldn't be able to differentiate on that anymore than on the arsenic content in breakfast cereals.

No need for arsenic, sugar content in cereal is an unregulated public safety issue http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/06/sugar-rush...

Re: Samsung, CPSC Say Galaxy Note 7 Owners Should Stop Using Them

#35
post #6

In fact, the lack of replaceable batteries is now becoming a consumer safety issue. Every city has a bomb squad who can isolate and destroy potentially explosive materials. This type of issue can be sorted out much more quickly, and much more safely, by having people turn in flawed lithium batteries to the local bomb squad. Further, if the batteries were standard sizes then there would likely be replacement batteries…

I'd appreciate it if someone with expertise can comment on why the market shifted to non-replaceable batteries. I know the suspicion that it's for planned obsolescence, but does someone really know? My impression is that replaceable batteries limit the shapes, materials and engineering that can be used, reducing capacity while increasing weight and size. For example a replaceable battery must be safely handled by end…

That's my impression too. I suspect it's mostly a matter of size and weight of the resulting phone.

Re: Samsung, CPSC Say Galaxy Note 7 Owners Should Stop Using Them

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't know about who you responded to, but wsj is paywalled for me. I can read just a little over 4 lines.

You can search the title on Google and click to view the article from Google.

The little "cache" arrow doesn't show up, and clicking on the link itself has the same issue.

This is from a few months ago, but it seems to apply here (at least for me): http://digiday.com/publishers/wall-street-journal-paywall-go...

Re: Samsung, CPSC Say Galaxy Note 7 Owners Should Stop Using Them

#37
post #20
post #17

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> "so...I now have two shield tablets" One of each can explode any time and cause injuries to people around it. Totally worth $150...

since the problem wasn't them exploding, and the resolution they offered was to toss the old one in the municipal waste system...then no, they won't explode

Best Buy has an electronics recycling program.

Re: Samsung, CPSC Say Galaxy Note 7 Owners Should Stop Using Them

#38
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Koh Dong-jin, chief of Samsung Electronics’ handset division, said on Sept. 2 that the Galaxy 7 incidents were caused by a flaw in the battery cell and had nothing to do with the phone itself. So, the article answers that.

Don't know about who you responded to, but wsj is paywalled for me. I can read just a little over 4 lines.

There's the web link below the link that is usually pretty reliable for getting through the pay wall. Though I've had it fail a couple times, mostly at work I think.

Re: Samsung, CPSC Say Galaxy Note 7 Owners Should Stop Using Them

#40
post #6

In fact, the lack of replaceable batteries is now becoming a consumer safety issue. Every city has a bomb squad who can isolate and destroy potentially explosive materials. This type of issue can be sorted out much more quickly, and much more safely, by having people turn in flawed lithium batteries to the local bomb squad. Further, if the batteries were standard sizes then there would likely be replacement batteries…

I'd appreciate it if someone with expertise can comment on why the market shifted to non-replaceable batteries. I know the suspicion that it's for planned obsolescence, but does someone really know? My impression is that replaceable batteries limit the shapes, materials and engineering that can be used, reducing capacity while increasing weight and size. For example a replaceable battery must be safely handled by end…

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