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You can't be serious? Are you!? please tell me that you have a source.
I'm serious actually. Some references to Richard Posner (Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit) https://books.google.com/books?id=A7IRDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA186&lpg=... http://www.masonlec.org/site/rte_uploads/files/Hylton_crimec...
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I'm serious actually. Some references to Richard Posner (Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit) https://books.google.com/books?id=A7IRDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA186&lpg=... http://www.masonlec.org/site/rte_uploads/files/Hylton_crimec...
Just a note to say your second link gives me a "Oops! That page can’t be found." page.
http://www.masonlec.org/site/rte_uploads/files/ Hylton_crimecon.pdf
I imagine executives are technically innocent, in that they gave engineers very specific requirements within certain parameters, and asked them to get it done by any means necessary. And then the executives were more than happy to be kept in the dark about how it was done. I can't imagine that the executives would have even been technically competent to understand what had happened. But they also created a dead end s…
Haha. Politics as usual. They really want us to believe an engineer was the mastermind of this scandal? An engineer can't make these decisions without approval from above. Is pathetic. Execs should go to jail or lose their jobs and pay multi-million dollar fines at the very least. But guess what's gonna happen? They will be discussing this as a bad dream when they meet up on a skiing trip in Swiss alps next winter.
He wasn’t just an engineer, he was also a manager.
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The 2008 financial crisis destroyed millions of hard workings people's retirement savings, jobs, and recent college graduates hopes of finding a job. No one went to jail over that. This is clearly a case of someone not having the right lawyers and political connections as engineers are people who actually create value as is often the case they can be successful without those two.
Neoliberal ideology makes the claim that prison is necessary to dissuade working class people from committing crimes. Whereas embarrassment and the tort system is sufficient for dissuading the management classes. Since we live in a neoliberal system it stands that this guy will go to jail and his bosses will perhaps pay fines.
Not saying it's a good solution, but it's one way to prevent crime.
This guy isn't the "fall guy" or just a poor engineer hung out to try instead of an exec, he deserves to go to prison based on the material facts of his plea: 1) He was the central figure in engineering the device. 2) He understood exactly what he was doing and made repeated efforts to perpetuate the lie to the government and EPA. 3) He led efforts to damage control and roll out an update to consumers under the guise…
He is exactly the fall guy. Just a target for public persecution. The really responsible execs will get away as usual. Nothing to see the bad guy it's punished time to Move on.
This guy isn't the "fall guy" or just a poor engineer hung out to try instead of an exec, he deserves to go to prison based on the material facts of his plea: 1) He was the central figure in engineering the device. 2) He understood exactly what he was doing and made repeated efforts to perpetuate the lie to the government and EPA. 3) He led efforts to damage control and roll out an update to consumers under the guise…
If all of this is true...then what was the motive? Just to save his own job? Seems like a lot for someone to do just to save a job.
How many engineers with a similar position are there in the car industry? Does clean air depends on none of them misbehaving? Either this guy is the "fall guy", or the whole system is very fragile.
The whole thing is a systemic failure. Regulations don't work. Regulators are generally lousy at their jobs (if they aren't working for the regulatees, they will be - I'm talking about the top regulators, mind you). The "free market" failed, because if everyone is cheating no one is cheating.
It's time we start working on a replacement, because what we've got now is busted.
If Mr. Liang is a P.Eng., I hope he loses his license. There should be a bunch of Engineers losing their licenses.
There should be some executives losing their jobs and freedom, if this guy is pleading guilty to several felonies. He wasn't acting on his own initiative.
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Neoliberal ideology makes the claim that prison is necessary to dissuade working class people from committing crimes. Whereas embarrassment and the tort system is sufficient for dissuading the management classes. Since we live in a neoliberal system it stands that this guy will go to jail and his bosses will perhaps pay fines.
How is that surprising? I don't understand. Prison sentences work as dissuasion. How else can you send a message to people to not commit those crimes? Not saying it's a good solution, but it's one way to prevent crime.