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Samsung, CPSC Say Galaxy Note 7 Owners Should Stop Using Them

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Re: Samsung, CPSC Say Galaxy Note 7 Owners Should Stop Using Them

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Does anyone have a non-paywall source?

Just click the "web" link at the top of this page, then click the article link via the resulting google search - this should get you past the paywall.

Why does that work?

Re: Samsung, CPSC Say Galaxy Note 7 Owners Should Stop Using Them

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just look at any grocery store checkout aisle or pharmacy, and see dozens of standardized battery sizes, from AA to 9-volt, or literally dozens of sizes of button cell batteries. If they were standardized, then rather than going to Amazon for the cheapest Chinese knockoff that mentions your phone, you'd go to the local Best Buy or whatever.

Unlikely to happen. It's one of the few places that phones can differentiate themselves so manufacturers are unlikely to want to lose that option to tinker with.

Given it's a clear safety issue they shouldn't be able to differentiate on that anymore than on the arsenic content in breakfast cereals.

Re: Samsung, CPSC Say Galaxy Note 7 Owners Should Stop Using Them

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just click the "web" link at the top of this page, then click the article link via the resulting google search - this should get you past the paywall.

Why does that work?

A lot of sites let in traffic from Google so that their sites will be indexed and rank when people search for them.

Re: Samsung, CPSC Say Galaxy Note 7 Owners Should Stop Using Them

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unlikely to happen. It's one of the few places that phones can differentiate themselves so manufacturers are unlikely to want to lose that option to tinker with.

Given it's a clear safety issue they shouldn't be able to differentiate on that anymore than on the arsenic content in breakfast cereals.

I don't think you can claim that non-replaceable batteries are a clear safety issue, especially when the replacement market would be flooded with cheap junk hand grenades.

Re: Samsung, CPSC Say Galaxy Note 7 Owners Should Stop Using Them

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A good argument for having replaceable batteries is that this recall could be done by just sending new batteries to everyone. Now, they have to replace entire devices.

Or it would encourage people to keep using the defective battery as a spare or old-age replacement. For the record, I'm nominally in favor of "replaceable batteries". But I also don't see how having to open a case makes a battery "non-replaceable", either. If I had to choose between easily-replaceable batteries or easier to open cases that didn't use snap-fit, I'd choose the latter.

I would note that opening the case in this instance requires high temperatures to soften up the adhesive, and might affect the water resistance of the device after replacement.

In addition to the back panel being glass, the above means that without the proper tools, I would not recommend self-service.

Re: Samsung, CPSC Say Galaxy Note 7 Owners Should Stop Using Them

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or it would encourage people to keep using the defective battery as a spare or old-age replacement. For the record, I'm nominally in favor of "replaceable batteries". But I also don't see how having to open a case makes a battery "non-replaceable", either. If I had to choose between easily-replaceable batteries or easier to open cases that didn't use snap-fit, I'd choose the latter.

I would note that opening the case in this instance requires high temperatures to soften up the adhesive, and might affect the water resistance of the device after replacement. In addition to the back panel being glass, the above means that without the proper tools, I would not recommend self-service.

Well really I abbreviated my sentence.

... snap-fit, glue, welding, staples, rivets, plastic push-clips, and any other assembly mechanism which undoing causes the device to be structurally damaged, cosmetically damaged, or necessitates buying new non-standard fasteners for each open.

General point is that the battery itself isn't so special compared to opening the rest of the device. Even on my i9500 with a standard "removable battery", the plastic clips which hold on the back cover have started to break off because they must have been designed for 20 insertion cycles. We don't need a "modular smartphone", we simply need assholes to stop "designing" them as if they're disposable.

Self-threading plastic screws aren't bad as long as you always back-thread them when reassembling. Soft thread-lock as used on eg Thinkpads is about the borderline of acceptability, and that's only because if you open your device enough you aren't really worried about a screw loosening over time.

Re: Samsung, CPSC Say Galaxy Note 7 Owners Should Stop Using Them

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Is this the battery or charging interface? Was it just a bad USB-C implementation?

> Koh Dong-jin, chief of Samsung Electronics’ handset division, said on Sept. 2 that the Galaxy 7 incidents were caused by a flaw in the battery cell and had nothing to do with the phone itself. So, the article answers that.

Don't know about who you responded to, but wsj is paywalled for me. I can read just a little over 4 lines.

Re: Samsung, CPSC Say Galaxy Note 7 Owners Should Stop Using Them

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> "so...I now have two shield tablets" One of each can explode any time and cause injuries to people around it. Totally worth $150...

since the problem wasn't them exploding, and the resolution they offered was to toss the old one in the municipal waste system...then no, they won't explode

An Anandtech article from last year claims that they were recalled for overheating issues, with the possibility of being a fire hazard: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9480/nvidia-initiates-safety-r...

Re: Samsung, CPSC Say Galaxy Note 7 Owners Should Stop Using Them

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Koh Dong-jin, chief of Samsung Electronics’ handset division, said on Sept. 2 that the Galaxy 7 incidents were caused by a flaw in the battery cell and had nothing to do with the phone itself. So, the article answers that.

Don't know about who you responded to, but wsj is paywalled for me. I can read just a little over 4 lines.

You can search the title on Google and click to view the article from Google.
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