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Re: You’re How Old? We’ll Be in Touch

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Post by krolley » Wed, Sep 07, 2016, 11:52 AM UTC

gaius wrote: post #173

vazamb wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like "Digital Natives" is a term non-technical, business people (most in entry level positions) use to make themselves feel better about the fact that their jobs don't require any kind of special skill or knowledge.

Its a term popularized by the BBC, they use "digital native" to mean people not old enough to remember a time before the web, and "digital immigrant" to mean anyone older. The fact that "digital immigrants" built all this stuff and "digital natives" are just users of it, is too subtle for their journos to grasp.

I assumed it was just a generational term like 'Generation X' or 'Millennial'.

Re: You’re How Old? We’ll Be in Touch

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Post by sajitmk » Thu, Sep 08, 2016, 6:46 PM UTC

hirundo wrote: post #8

I'm a grey beard who applied to a company specifically advertising for young developers. Got the job without mentioning my vintage. That was six years ago and they still haven't seen my face. I waited a while to gently break the news to them. If you're a technological senior citizen remote work is your friend.

How does that work? Dont they do a background check based on your social or something?

Re: You’re How Old? We’ll Be in Touch

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Post by driverdan » Fri, Sep 09, 2016, 11:46 PM UTC

sien wrote: post #80

This is a market failing that anyone who is hiring can exploit. I've worked for a guy who hired young, smart guys without much experience who he felt had potential and who also had some 55+ year old developers who he thought could do things. He was one of the best managers I've had. So be smart and realise that people who don't fit into what you expect might find it a bit harder at some places to find a job and that…

As a hiring manager I always get excited when I have an applicant with 15+ years experience. I really want people with that much experience on our team. Unfortunately very few have gotten even half way through our hiring process.

Re: You’re How Old? We’ll Be in Touch

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Post by driverdan » Fri, Sep 09, 2016, 11:49 PM UTC

czep wrote: post #57

This is a world where job posts for "Senior Engineer" ask for three years of experience.

We say three years plus for senior engineer. We have people with that experience who are fantastic software engineers and completely deserve the title. You don't need 15+ years of experience to be a good engineer, but it helps.

Re: You’re How Old? We’ll Be in Touch

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Post by mcv » Mon, Sep 12, 2016, 3:46 PM UTC

gaius wrote: post #173

vazamb wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like "Digital Natives" is a term non-technical, business people (most in entry level positions) use to make themselves feel better about the fact that their jobs don't require any kind of special skill or knowledge.

Its a term popularized by the BBC, they use "digital native" to mean people not old enough to remember a time before the web, and "digital immigrant" to mean anyone older. The fact that "digital immigrants" built all this stuff and "digital natives" are just users of it, is too subtle for their journos to grasp.

Digital is far older than the web. We had computers at home since as early as I can remember, but I distinctly remember in university when I first discovered a mysterious "xmosaic" in a menu on our system.