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How Dropbox Hacks Your Mac

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Re: How Dropbox Hacks Your Mac

#11
What the fuck Dropbox!

How do I get rid of the backdoor in /Library/Application\ Support/com.apple.TCC/TCC.db even after uninstalling Dropbox.app and rm -rf'ing ~/.dropbox and /Library/DropboxHelperTools? Do I just sudo sqlite3 and delete the row? Or is there an official tool (tccutil)?

Edit: Crap, there's a /Library/Extensions/Dropbox.kext too now. :(

Re: How Dropbox Hacks Your Mac

#12
post #11

What the fuck Dropbox! How do I get rid of the backdoor in /Library/Application\ Support/com.apple.TCC/TCC.db even after uninstalling Dropbox.app and rm -rf'ing ~/.dropbox and /Library/DropboxHelperTools? Do I just sudo sqlite3 and delete the row? Or is there an official tool (tccutil)? Edit: Crap, there's a /Library/Extensions/Dropbox.kext too now. :(

should be able to just uncheck Dropbox.app in SysPrefs -> Security & Privacy -> Privacy -> Accessibility

Re: How Dropbox Hacks Your Mac

#13

Great article, but poor conclusion. He finds that Dropbox is untrustworthy, a finding that likely surprises no one, and reaches for iCloud as the solution. Why move into another walled garden driven by corporate interests? OwnCloud or a similar self hosted solution would be better. I just use NFS and a dead simple storage server to make ~/shared available on all of my machines.

In many cases self hosted is better. One needs to consider that this also needs some time to maintain, though. Personally I also like ownCloud but still mostly use Dropbox.

Re: How Dropbox Hacks Your Mac

#14
post #6

Non-clickbait title: "How Dropbox uses the root access that you give it during installation to give itself Accessibility authorization without triggering the usual popup".

Great summary. But it's still some kind of hack.

If every app I installed did this then my mac is closer to getting hacked.

Anyway, Apps that asks for root password on installation always makes me cringe, e.g. they could turn on SSH and put a pubkey into authorized_keys, or they could upload SSH identity files. But I still proceed to enter my password.

Re: How Dropbox Hacks Your Mac

#15

Great article, but poor conclusion. He finds that Dropbox is untrustworthy, a finding that likely surprises no one, and reaches for iCloud as the solution. Why move into another walled garden driven by corporate interests? OwnCloud or a similar self hosted solution would be better. I just use NFS and a dead simple storage server to make ~/shared available on all of my machines.

What happens when you take a laptop to another network?

Re: How Dropbox Hacks Your Mac

#16

Great article, but poor conclusion. He finds that Dropbox is untrustworthy, a finding that likely surprises no one, and reaches for iCloud as the solution. Why move into another walled garden driven by corporate interests? OwnCloud or a similar self hosted solution would be better. I just use NFS and a dead simple storage server to make ~/shared available on all of my machines.

If you're going to use a Mac, you're trusting Apple already. How does using iCloud make you trust them more?

Re: How Dropbox Hacks Your Mac

#18
post #6

Non-clickbait title: "How Dropbox uses the root access that you give it during installation to give itself Accessibility authorization without triggering the usual popup".

Great summary. But it's still some kind of hack. If every app I installed did this then my mac is closer to getting hacked. Anyway, Apps that asks for root password on installation always makes me cringe, e.g. they could turn on SSH and put a pubkey into authorized_keys, or they could upload SSH identity files. But I still proceed to enter my password.

How's that any different compared to Linux? AFAIK apt packages can run arbitrary scripts as root.

Re: How Dropbox Hacks Your Mac

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post #12
post #11

What the fuck Dropbox! How do I get rid of the backdoor in /Library/Application\ Support/com.apple.TCC/TCC.db even after uninstalling Dropbox.app and rm -rf'ing ~/.dropbox and /Library/DropboxHelperTools? Do I just sudo sqlite3 and delete the row? Or is there an official tool (tccutil)? Edit: Crap, there's a /Library/Extensions/Dropbox.kext too now. :(

should be able to just uncheck Dropbox.app in SysPrefs -> Security & Privacy -> Privacy -> Accessibility

It's not visible there, probably because I obliterated the Dropbox.app file.

Currently rm -rf'ing the kext after kextunloading it and seeing the kextcache rebuilding.

Why should I trust a company that gets its customer database leaked with a kext that they install via shady deceiving permission dialogs?!

Uninstalled. Good riddance.

Re: How Dropbox Hacks Your Mac

#20
post #16

Great article, but poor conclusion. He finds that Dropbox is untrustworthy, a finding that likely surprises no one, and reaches for iCloud as the solution. Why move into another walled garden driven by corporate interests? OwnCloud or a similar self hosted solution would be better. I just use NFS and a dead simple storage server to make ~/shared available on all of my machines.

If you're going to use a Mac, you're trusting Apple already. How does using iCloud make you trust them more?

I wouldn't use a Mac, either :)
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