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“Dear Mark. I am writing this to inform you that I shall not comply”

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Re: “Dear Mark. I am writing this to inform you that I shall not comply”

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> What does it mean for society when Facebook can demote a challenging but important article (say, of war reporting) in your newsfeed so it can promote your friend's Wedding photos That Facebook is a social networking platform that some people incidentally use to try to relay news of general public concern, not an online public affairs platform with an incidental social networking function?

There's what a thing was originally designed to be, and then there's what a thing currently is. They aren't always the same thing.

And there's also what it ought to be in order to benefit humanity the most, which is often a third thing.

Re: “Dear Mark. I am writing this to inform you that I shall not comply”

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It's a man-in-the-middle attack on culture.

just like tv, radio and newspapers. perhaps even churches, temples and mosques... though that might be more controversial to say.

There always another radio, newspaper, church. There's really only one Facebook, and it's now how you get essentially all of those things.

Re: “Dear Mark. I am writing this to inform you that I shall not comply”

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post #46

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It's a man-in-the-middle attack on culture.

just like tv, radio and newspapers. perhaps even churches, temples and mosques... though that might be more controversial to say.

true, but the main point is that they are competing with each other and so there is so movement as public opinion shifts.

Re: “Dear Mark. I am writing this to inform you that I shall not comply”

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Basically only when the law says that something is illegal.

And that answer is what is wrong with capitalism. Why can a drug maker jack their prices up 100x? Because it's profitable. Why do gas companies raise their prices when there's an impending disaster (hurricane, blizzards, etc.)? Because they can. Capitalism is great in a different aspect: it provides a form of unaccountable eugenics. Your parents were poor, and went to a public school that wasn't funded well. That tra…

I agree with you the first three stanzas of your post, but is this what is wrong with "capitalism", or is this what is wrong with "the way we are currently doing capitalism" ?

Re: “Dear Mark. I am writing this to inform you that I shall not comply”

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So you are saying that Mark Zuckerberg is a dictator and no one has the freedom to leave his rule? This is so different, if you don't like Facebook use a competitors service. If a good one doesn't exist that lines up with your moral aspirations create one. But under Saddam and Gaddafi, you don't like them, keep quiet or you might disappear, if the wrong person over hears you.

> if you don't like Facebook use a competitors service. If a good one doesn't exist that lines up with your moral aspirations, create one Is anyone working on this?

Diaspora is nice.

Re: “Dear Mark. I am writing this to inform you that I shall not comply”

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For me, it was HTTPS Everywhere that was causing the problem. Disabling it showed me the pictures.

That was it. I wish Google would start with the red alerts already so webmaster may start getting their shit together.

HTTPS is oppressive to those who cannot afford computers powerful enough to run the cyphers on so many connections. Try browsing on a 66mhz bus pentium some time.

Re: “Dear Mark. I am writing this to inform you that I shall not comply”

#98

Sometimes I wonder that when we shower criticism on Facebook about privacy concerns, we're missing the forest for the trees. The bigger issue I see is the sheer amount of eyeballs trained exclusively to Facebook's content. What does it mean for society when Facebook can demote a challenging but important article (say, of war reporting) in your newsfeed so it can promote your friend's Wedding photos, because an algori…

> What does it mean for society when Facebook can demote a challenging but important article (say, of war reporting) in your newsfeed I think it means absolutely nothing. I use Facebook so I can see how my friends are doing, not to find news articles to read (unless it's an article my friend just shared, and even then only maybe). I don't think many people use facebook to get their news and nowhere else.

> I don't think many people use facebook to get their news and nowhere else.

And yet enough people do that it's a real and recognized problem to the point that HN discusses it every couple of weeks. HN in itself being a similar echo chamber.

People get news from what they look at. There's no such thing as "news". It's all eyeball based. The source with the most eyeballs is considered The News.

Re: “Dear Mark. I am writing this to inform you that I shall not comply”

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Soon, people will start to realize that for actual information, news, and debate, you have to venture outside of Facebook, just like you have to venture outside of TV for those things currently in the US (not a single actual news program available on broadcast or cable but plenty of "News" entertainment programs). Otherwise you're just processing mindless drivel that you already agree with and that you already know. Which is exactly the state of being Zuckerberg and other people trying to push garbage products onto people prefer. Until then, our society will probably just keep pretending that Facebook is something other than brain junk food because most people don't want to admit to themselves that they are being controlled and manipulated, and most people simply just don't give a fuck about news, history, historical photos, or anything beyond petty celebrity gossip or other such nonsense (that's why those things are pulled from timelines).

Re: “Dear Mark. I am writing this to inform you that I shall not comply”

#100
> If you take the liberty to challenge Facebook’s rules, you will be met – as we have seen – with censorship.

You are in Marks living room. He has asked you not to bring certain kinds of photos to his place. You did anyway so he took the photo from you. You brought another copy the next time. Now he is getting angry with you.

Maybe you should meet at your place in the future? Or maybe you shouldn't be friends with Mark at all.

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