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The End of Headphone Jacks, the Rise of DRM

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Post by BatFastard »

mcpherrinm wrote: post #265
criddell wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish Amazon would take the same stand for ebooks.

My understanding, talking from a few folks who worked on that sort of thing, is that they tried. Of course this is all rumours and chit-chat, so I have no idea how true it is. But the book publishers would apparently be happy for ebooks to go away, Amazon to stop selling books, and their higher margin deals with Borders to come back. So they called Amazon's bluff.

No shit!

The only DRM that should be on ebooks is there should only be one version of it at a time. Just like a printed book.

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Post by djrogers »

catdog wrote: post #218
usaphp wrote: post #184

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How is Apple iPhone more overpriced than other flagship devices from say Samsung? Last I heard the note 7 costs more than the iPhone.

Most other manufacturers in contrast to Apple do not only sell these overpriced "flagship devices" which few people really need these days but also offer devices in a more reasonable price range. The biggest problem is that others often copy stupid or customer unfriendly decisions Apple makes, leading to a lot less choice if you want to avoid it.

> Most other manufacturers in contrast to Apple do not only sell these overpriced "flagship devices" which few people really need these days but also offer devices in a more reasonable price range.

Like the 5 lines of iPhone that Apple offers[1]?

[1]http://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/

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Post by djrogers »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #162

Is it possible Apple wants to kill Square because they want everyone to use pay anywhere and are going to release a new card reader dongle soon?

No - the old square reader still works with the dongle (per square) and the new one is wireless anyway.

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Post by tjic »

jshevek wrote: post #281
astrodust wrote: post #242

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What would Cory do without Apple to hate on? I worry about the guy. Nobody's forcing you to buy an iPhone 7. Nobody's taking away all your analog ports. It's like the NRA here getting all up in arms because someone had the audacity to declare a gun free zone in a school which impinges on their freedoms . Seriously, get a grip Cory. You're free to criticize Apple's decisions but don't make it out like Apple's destroyi…

This reads like an effort to invalidate someone else's ideas, concerns, and criticisms by trivializing them and presupposing their motives.

Yes, I agree.

And I think it does it well. Cory Doctorow is a self promoting fear monger, and I think it's a useful addition to the conversation to make that clear.

It lets people calibrate their outrage over his most recent pronouncement.

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Post by astrodust »

jshevek wrote: post #261
astrodust wrote: post #245

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Their OS has no DRM. Microsoft's is loaded down with license codes and activation rituals. Watch who you're blaming about loving DRM.

MS is irrelevant to Apple's readiness to use DRM when it suits them. This is a variation of the classic Tu quoque fallacy.

Define "suits them" then. Microsoft locks down everything, even the computer itself with Secure Boot. Apple does no such thing.

If you want to run OS X/macOS on your own hardware it's doable. The only trick is finding drivers, not cracking DRM or license protection.

If you want to run another OS on your Mac you might need to fiddle with the EFI settings and/or update that with an EFI mod tool to make it more compatible, but there's no real impediment to installing anything you want.

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Post by astrodust »

smacktoward wrote: post #260
astrodust wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would Cory do without Apple to hate on? I worry about the guy. Nobody's forcing you to buy an iPhone 7. Nobody's taking away all your analog ports. It's like the NRA here getting all up in arms because someone had the audacity to declare a gun free zone in a school which impinges on their freedoms . Seriously, get a grip Cory. You're free to criticize Apple's decisions but don't make it out like Apple's destroyi…

> Nobody's taking away all your analog ports. Yet. Let's talk again in 12 or 24 months, when all the other manufacturers have done their usual thing of stampeding blindly to ape whatever Apple's done lately. > It's never been easier to make your own phone. Making a phone is the easy part. Getting permission to use that phone on closed, proprietary networks controlled entirely by a giant telcos who have absolutely no…

> Yet.

You'll have nobody to blame but the other vendors, and I think they'd be stupid to follow Apple here. The answer to headphones that Apple has now is the Lightning connector/adapter plus their wireless solution.

Other companies have nothing. Can USB-C do the job? Do they have a wireless standard they can all agree on? I have my doubts.

> Getting the telcos...

They have no say in it. You can use an unlocked phone on any network you want. You can already build your own phone with a Rasperry Pi and a GSM module. There's really nothing they can do.

They won't sell it in their retail stores, that's a huge barrier, but not if you don't care.

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Post by darkmouth »

csense wrote: post #141

The lack of a headphone jack is simply yet another excellent reason not to buy an iPhone. What confuses me is why so many people continue to buy Apple products when they're overpriced, locked-down and treat developers like crap.

Same reason millions of offices still use Microsoft Windows. It is the brand. It doesn't matter how bad a product is as long as everyone around them is using it and it is viewed as a mark of success and money. Functionality is secondary, people are willing to adapt around it.

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Post by sigmar »

dogma1138 wrote: post #271
sigmar wrote: post #215

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Isn't it the exact same size as the lightning earpods though? The spec does has analog audio, but I've yet to see it used (by apple or a third party)

I have doubts that the EarPods are digital also it's not stated anywhere. Some of the lightning docks had some circuitry in them but no DACs. The lightning to 30pin converter works with older DAC-less audio setups/docks. Overall my hunch is that it's not digital only yet.

>I have doubts that the EarPods are digital also it's not stated anywhere.

They specifically said in the announcement that the earpods are digital not analog: https://youtu.be/G6I-IKYEVMI?t=21045

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Post by dogma1138 »

sigmar wrote: post #298
dogma1138 wrote: post #271

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have doubts that the EarPods are digital also it's not stated anywhere. Some of the lightning docks had some circuitry in them but no DACs. The lightning to 30pin converter works with older DAC-less audio setups/docks. Overall my hunch is that it's not digital only yet.

>I have doubts that the EarPods are digital also it's not stated anywhere. They specifically said in the announcement that the earpods are digital not analog: https://youtu.be/G6I-IKYEVMI?t=21045

Hmm not sure most of the "digital" stuff was not about the earpods but about the wireless ones AKA the "AirPods" The ones that come with the iPhone 7 in the box are the regular earpods we have now just with a lightning connector, there have also been a few videos going back to july about the 3.5mm connector some of them taken it apart it doesn't seem to have anything in it.

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Post by exabrial »

ohitsdom wrote: post #176
exabrial wrote: post #106

Other people getting screwed: Custom IEM wearers. I had a $300 set of Alclair Audio IEMs made so I can use an in-ear audio system on stage while making live music. These use impressions that an audiologist takes of your ear canals for an _exact_ fit that completely seals your ear. There's not a snow-balls chance in hell I would have these be wireless, or a proprietary standard: 1) Latency. Anything over 2ms is not ac…

> Anything over 2ms is not acceptable for live music. That's the difference between a band sounding "in-time" to "needs practice" Obviously you want your in-ear sound to be as exact as possible, but a 2 ms difference will not make a band sound bad. I remember hearing 9 ms was the threshold for live music, but I can't find any references. If it truly is lower I would love to read some source material. There are very f…

+-2ms is with unpredictable jitter, you can go up to 6ms-8ms with predictable latency, anything over 10ms it gets difficult.

Source: personal experience in the field with various in-ear and stage monitor systems, and lots and tons of research over the years

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