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The End of Headphone Jacks, the Rise of DRM

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Re: The End of Headphone Jacks, the Rise of DRM

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HeadphoneJackGate is really a damning indictment of the tech industry. The usability of Apple products for ordinary people has been sliding downhill for years due to trendy-but-idiotic features like hidden UI, flat UI, and gestures (and various abominations combining the three). But the lack of a headphone jack (a total non-issue thanks to the included adapter) is what the tech press gets worked up over...

The next iphone in 2017 or 2018 probably won't have the adapter. All headphone manufacturers should go and ask for lightning certification. The adapter is just a temporary measure to soothe customers. It won't be supported forever. If apple honestly wanted digital audio they would have used the universal USB-C standard for the future. Apple wants customer lock-in to their platform and using lightning will prevent cus…

Apple will only drop the adapter when enough people no longer need it. And given that Apple still sells a VGA adapter for the iPhone, it's not like they are likely to stop making it any time soon.

Re: The End of Headphone Jacks, the Rise of DRM

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Yeah, I'm imagining some scenario where say Spotify partners with Bose, and if you plug in Bose headphones then you get higher quality audio than you can get elsewhere. Or say tidal (Jay Z's streaming service) says you can only listen to some songs via Kanye's new headphones.

And the only reason any of that works is because people accept it and pay for the privilege. Don't like the situation, don't buy the service offering it. It turns out, society doesn't really care about these things.

It's not that society doesn't care, it's that people don't spend time figuring out all the distant-future implications of their choices. While you can't boil a literal live frog by turning up the heat slowly, this principle works extremely well on the free market.

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I understand the argument that forcing content through a proprietary jack opens the door for controlling said content and has huge implications for hardware manufacturers and the way people use their stuff. What I am having a hard time understanding is why is that any different than the OS influencing what gets sent to the 3.5mm jack? It isn't like apps running in iOS had to interact with APIs to do all the other thi…

Apple has been very good at predicting (or perhaps directly causing) the demise of certain technologies: the disk drive, the CD drive, the ethernet port. They removed them much to the chagrin of many a loyal customer, and a few years later they nearly ceased to exist across the entire industry (we're still waiting on the ethernet port to go away but give it time). How many times will it take you forgetting your dongl…

> we're still waiting on the ethernet port to go away but give it time

You have it precisely backwards.

Far from going away, everything became Ethernet.

Take a look at the modern interconnection standards: HDMI, USB 3.0, Thunderbolt, etc. They are all packetized transfer across an impedance controlled double pair of wires.

Re: The End of Headphone Jacks, the Rise of DRM

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post #149

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but hypothetically you could send a digital encrypted signal over the audio 3.5mm jack, provided that the receiving device has an ADC and can decrypt.

So D > A > Encr. A > D > A > Ear? In practice that sounds ridiculous.

There are a lot of ridiculous things going on every day in many areas of life that are there just because someone wants to make a buck.

Re: The End of Headphone Jacks, the Rise of DRM

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post #198

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Do you have a source saying that the analog over lightning is being used here? Because the slide I posted in my other reply says it is "digital audio" over lightning, which I assume to be true for both lightning earpods and this adapter (though I very well could be wrong).

The size of it plus the spec has lanes for analog audio. Wait for a tear down but it isn't a DAC.

Isn't it the exact same size as the lightning earpods though? The spec does has analog audio, but I've yet to see it used (by apple or a third party)

Re: The End of Headphone Jacks, the Rise of DRM

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Hello 2007. https://i.imgur.com/NqxYlb0.jpg

What is this a photo of? Looks like some sort of barrel jack to AC mains adapter?

That looks like a Sony Ericsson proprietary connector (called FastPort)[1] to 3.5mm audio jack to me.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FastPort

Re: The End of Headphone Jacks, the Rise of DRM

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The lack of a headphone jack is simply yet another excellent reason not to buy an iPhone. What confuses me is why so many people continue to buy Apple products when they're overpriced, locked-down and treat developers like crap.

How is Apple iPhone more overpriced than other flagship devices from say Samsung? Last I heard the note 7 costs more than the iPhone.

Most other manufacturers in contrast to Apple do not only sell these overpriced "flagship devices" which few people really need these days but also offer devices in a more reasonable price range.

The biggest problem is that others often copy stupid or customer unfriendly decisions Apple makes, leading to a lot less choice if you want to avoid it.

Re: The End of Headphone Jacks, the Rise of DRM

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Which is a hassle. If you are making headphones now in 2016 and beyond, you are going to have to deal with the lightening port to be competitive in the iPhone accessory market.

This wasn't a push to use the lightning port -- it was a push for accessory makers to ask "First, can we make this wireless?". Lightning isn't really long for this world, either -- (not sure if it goes in 2 or 4 years, but I'd bet pretty heavily against it surviving for 6). The next iteration of the watch is probably self-sufficient, no phone needed, and will require BT accessories.

I agree. I think the endgame is no lightning port at all -- with inductive or wireless charging instead, and icloud (or wifi) for sync and backups.

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How did they succeed?

Rumour is, Amazon threatened to stop selling CDs for record companies who wouldn't let them sell DRM-free MP3 files. Certainly they used their massive sales presence to negotiate a deal with the record companies. I think that was the major tipping point for DRM on music. Apple followed after that.

I wish Amazon would take the same stand for ebooks.
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