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Re: Malicious ZIP archives found in the AKP leak on the Wikileaks site

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Post by soundwave106 »

grandalf wrote: post #62
alex_hitchins wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In Sweden is called "rape" but in the US would be called "consensual sex" If you have sex with someone and tell them you will use a condom and don't, that isn't consensual.

True, however it is not typically labeled "rape" when the sexual contact aspect is consensual. It seems to constitute some sort of wrongdoing, but potentially also a misunderstanding. In any case, headlines and comments omitting this information and highlighting rape accusations are certainly intended to create a specific impression.

One of the charges as I understand it is Mr. Assange had sex with one of the accusers while she was asleep. That definitely seems to qualify as rape in Sweden penal code (https://lagen.nu/1962:700#K6P1S1 -- note I'm relying on Google Translate so corrections welcome).

Sweden is not the only country that considers sex with someone sleeping or otherwise unconscious as rape; a quick look at UK law for instance seems to bring this up in section 75 (http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42). Even in Mr. Assange's native Australia, failure to withdraw from sexual intercourse after consent is withdrawn appears in itself to be considered "rape" in all districts but Queensland. (https://www.alrc.gov.au/publications/25.%20Sexual%20Offences...)

There are varying degrees of rape in Sweden, as I understand it Mr. Assange is being accused of the most minor degree of rape due to the circumstances. Still, it seems like what he is accused of is typically labeled "rape" in many places.

Re: Malicious ZIP archives found in the AKP leak on the Wikileaks site

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Post by leephillips »

Since there is much speculation here about Assange's motives, why not at least consider how he himself describes them? In this interview with Bill Maher:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-EJAIXdGp8

Assange explains that he found it to be "good fun" to release SS and credit card numbers of thousands of random, innocent people.

If we consider that Assange may be one of those (we know they exist, in significant numbers) who get pleasure from hurting other people, much of his otherwise perplexing behavior suddenly makes sense. Why not delete malware from your servers once a security researcher has located it for you? You can hurt more people if you leave it there.

Re: Malicious ZIP archives found in the AKP leak on the Wikileaks site

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Post by vog »

nthcolumn wrote: post #67
wodencafe wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> still just very amateurish. Especially considering how long they've been releasing these data dumps.

I guess that is because they don't get paid.

They receive donations, though. Depending on how they receive that okay, this may count as payment for their work.

Re: Malicious ZIP archives found in the AKP leak on the Wikileaks site

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Post by CWuestefeld »

gakada wrote: post #44
somenomadicguy wrote: post #21

> Seriously. What has "innocent until proven guilty" devolved into? You're bordering on libel. > Until a court has convicted Appelbaum of the crime of rape, he is not a rapist. I know Jake very well, I've worked with him in the past and he has conned me into bailing him out of several situations. I also know a good number of women he has dated, including two ex-gfs of mine. I have little doubt of his guilt. Anybody w…

There's a difference between thinking something and saying it. You're entitled to think he is a rapist, you're not entitled to say it (in public, without some kind of qualification like "alleged"). It's especially bad form to make libellous comments on someone else's website, as you are making more work for the mods who now have to delete it.

You seriously misunderstand defamation law, at least in the United States.

Re: Malicious ZIP archives found in the AKP leak on the Wikileaks site

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Post by Twirrim »

moolcool wrote: post #74
jacobwcarlson wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So a spammy email in one of the thousands leaked happened to contained malware? And this is newsworthy why? Because it's another example of the unconscionable lack of attention to detail that Wikileaks pays when putting out these dumps. Not quite at the level of outing gay Saudis and rape victims (putting them at risk of death), but still just very amateurish.

Is it a lack of attention? I don't think a virus in a collection of leaked emails is a major threat since you'd be a fool to execute it. On the other hand, it might be useful for researchers if the virus was written to specifically target somebody.

It would hardly take any time to run the trove through a virus scanner, and it wouldn't even need someone to be sitting over it nannying it through the process.

Re: Malicious ZIP archives found in the AKP leak on the Wikileaks site

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Post by varjag »

protomyth wrote: post #53
at-fates-hands wrote: post #22

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>> In 2016 Wikileaks's agenda seems to be: - Anti-Hillary - Anti-Hillary - Pro-Trump - Pro-Putin - Anti-Hillary - Opportunistic I actually laughed when I read this. I actually laughed when Sean Hannity had him on and was talking about he thinks he should be a free man and what great work he's doing. Backtrack a few years ago, and it was the Republicans and all their supporters who wanted to tar and feather Assange fo…

I laughed too.... He actually has a pretty consistent agenda - reveal shocking stuff that people don't want revealed, and do it with a dramatic flair. Yes, a couple years back his releases on Iraq / Afghanistan had some things that enraged Republicans and were praised by Democrats. Now he's exposing their house. He's an agent of chaos with a self promotion streak. Saying his agenda is anything beyond that ignores his…

His agenda can be best described as anti-American (yes I realize it's a very loaded term). He would release whatever hurts American interests most, regardless of who represents the USA at the moment.

Re: Malicious ZIP archives found in the AKP leak on the Wikileaks site

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Post by grandalf »

alex_hitchins wrote: post #79
grandalf wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Saying you are wearing a condom when you aren't is wrongdoing. Of course it is. Assange disputed the accusation and claimed that there was mutual understanding of the status of the condom. In any case, barring an unwanted VD or pregnancy, it seems peculiar to decide to pursue legal action about this a month after the fact. While it's possible that Assange acted boorishly and inappropriately, I think rape is not the…

> Would a woman who lied about having been on birth control reasonably be said to have raped a male partner? No. But birth control isn't the only aspect to the issue. As you stated, sexually transmitted diseases are an issue. More of an issue arguably. Also, two women have reported the same behaviour (to my knowledge). Although not enough to be considered a pattern, it's disconcerting.

> Also, two women have reported the same behaviour

Yes, it is my understanding that at least one of the women and the new prosecutor involved have expressed that the case should be dismissed.

Re: Malicious ZIP archives found in the AKP leak on the Wikileaks site

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Post by trendia »

leephillips wrote: post #82

Since there is much speculation here about Assange's motives, why not at least consider how he himself describes them? In this interview with Bill Maher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-EJAIXdGp8 Assange explains that he found it to be "good fun" to release SS and credit card numbers of thousands of random, innocent people. If we consider that Assange may be one of those (we know they exist, in significant numbers)…

I think you're taking Assange's words out of context. He was talking about the release itself, in that it showed how the DNC actively worked to hamper Bernie's efforts despite being a "neutral" organization. (Neutrality is one of the conditions for the DNC to receive tax breaks for their convention).

> Why not delete malware from your servers once a security researcher has located it for you?

Assange has repeatedly said that they do not filter or edit in any way the contents of their leaks. That means that they don't remove credit card information, social security numbers, or malware.

Is that a good practice?

Well, it depends on what the goal is. Wikileaks has the stated goal of increasing transparency in the government. They could release an edited version and achieve transparency, but editing the contents would mean that the documents are no longer "pristine" in the sense that they have not been altered in any way. This would make a legal process depending on these documents more difficult: A jury may ask themselves whether other things have been removed -- did Wikileaks also remove any content that would affect their decision?

Thus, refusing to edit the content fits with another goal other than just increasing transparency: to do so in a way that the documents can be used in a legal setting with no question of their veracity.

Re: Malicious ZIP archives found in the AKP leak on the Wikileaks site

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Post by eggy »

amyjess wrote: post #40
eggy wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's separate Julian Assange and content of the leaks please. Ad hominem attacks are only meant to divert people from the content of the emails. Take them for what they are, not who rendered them to the public.

The content of his leaks is irrelevant. What matters is the intent behind releasing them. Assange being alt-right and the fact that he is going out of his way to leak material that improves the chances of the standard-bearer of the alt-right, Donald Trump, becoming head of state of the most powerful country on Earth are absolutely 100% linked together, and those links should be investigated. Some information should n…

Who decides what information should be public? The alt-right or the alt-left?

Re: Malicious ZIP archives found in the AKP leak on the Wikileaks site

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Post by leephillips »

trendia wrote: post #88
leephillips wrote: post #82

Since there is much speculation here about Assange's motives, why not at least consider how he himself describes them? In this interview with Bill Maher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-EJAIXdGp8 Assange explains that he found it to be "good fun" to release SS and credit card numbers of thousands of random, innocent people. If we consider that Assange may be one of those (we know they exist, in significant numbers)…

I think you're taking Assange's words out of context. He was talking about the release itself, in that it showed how the DNC actively worked to hamper Bernie's efforts despite being a "neutral" organization. (Neutrality is one of the conditions for the DNC to receive tax breaks for their convention). > Why not delete malware from your servers once a security researcher has located it for you? Assange has repeatedly s…

"I think you're taking Assange's words out of context"

I don't believe so, but people can watch the interview and come to their own conclusions. The question was put very deliberately and specifically by Maher, who asked if private people's personal information was "fair game".

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