Malicious ZIP archives found in the AKP leak on the Wikileaks site • Hacker News Board

Re: Malicious ZIP archives found in the AKP leak on the Wikileaks site

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Post by jshevek » Thu, Sep 08, 2016, 2:26 PM UTC

ajamesm wrote: post #25

mschuster91 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> His best buddy Jake Appelbaum is a rapist? CIA Seriously. What has "innocent until proven guilty" devolved into? You're bordering on libel. Until a court has convicted Appelbaum of the crime of rape, he is not a rapist. I personally think that the accusations may have a kernel of truth, but are greatly exaggerated by the participants. Only a criminal court is properly equipped with means (both legal and time) to re…

Al Capone was a gangster. Does that unfounded accusation also inflame your sense of justice? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 'Innocent until proven guilty' concerns the court system, but not the rest of civil society. If someone throws up all the red flags of a rapist, nobody is obligated to balk at them.

> 'Innocent until proven guilty' concerns the court system, but not the rest of civil society.

To be a truly civil society, we have a moral obligation to raise ourselves to this standard.

Re: Malicious ZIP archives found in the AKP leak on the Wikileaks site

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Post by wildmusings » Thu, Sep 08, 2016, 2:26 PM UTC

somenomadicguy wrote: post #8

I read through about 1/2 of the AKP "leaks", it was a tremendous waste of time for anything but improving comprehension of Türkçe. At a point in time, I truly believed Assange's goals were justice and transparency, now I am beginning to feel like he has his own political agenda, and is making sophomoric attempts to affect political change. In 2016 Wikileaks's agenda seems to be: - Anti-Hillary - Anti-Hillary - Pro-Tr…

>At a point in time, I truly believed Assange's goals were justice and transparency, now I am beginning to feel like he has his own political agenda, and is making sophomoric attempts to affect political change.

He has always very openly had a political agenda. You just don't like the new flavor of his Koolaid.

Re: Malicious ZIP archives found in the AKP leak on the Wikileaks site

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Post by protomyth » Thu, Sep 08, 2016, 2:26 PM UTC

lobo_tuerto wrote: post #5

But how does it work? do you get infected just by opening the .zip file?

That's how it typically works with e-mail. I see this as an indication that perhaps someone who received the e-mail opened it (since it was part of the leak and not removed by a spam filter). This is why you probably you shouldn't run your own e-mail server if you clearly have no clue. Hiring the correct people does help keep your reputation intact.

[edit: down voting for actually answering a question factually - I would love for the open the attachment not to spread viruses - even anti-virus makers don't catch them all]

Re: Malicious ZIP archives found in the AKP leak on the Wikileaks site

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Post by gakada » Thu, Sep 08, 2016, 2:28 PM UTC

somenomadicguy wrote: post #21

> Seriously. What has "innocent until proven guilty" devolved into? You're bordering on libel. > Until a court has convicted Appelbaum of the crime of rape, he is not a rapist. I know Jake very well, I've worked with him in the past and he has conned me into bailing him out of several situations. I also know a good number of women he has dated, including two ex-gfs of mine. I have little doubt of his guilt. Anybody w…

There's a difference between thinking something and saying it. You're entitled to think he is a rapist, you're not entitled to say it (in public, without some kind of qualification like "alleged").

It's especially bad form to make libellous comments on someone else's website, as you are making more work for the mods who now have to delete it.

Re: Malicious ZIP archives found in the AKP leak on the Wikileaks site

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Post by Tergmap » Thu, Sep 08, 2016, 2:30 PM UTC

wavefunction wrote: post #39

ronnier wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And this is newsworthy why? Because we were pro Wiki Leaks when it helped Sanders. We are now anti Wiki Leaks because it helps Trump. It boils down to that.

Can you elaborate? Specifically who 'we' are and how Sanders and Trump were helped.

Even I was able to identify the sarcasm on first sight.

Re: Malicious ZIP archives found in the AKP leak on the Wikileaks site

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Post by alanwatts » Thu, Sep 08, 2016, 2:31 PM UTC

grandalf wrote: post #34

somenomadicguy wrote: post #21

> Seriously. What has "innocent until proven guilty" devolved into? You're bordering on libel. > Until a court has convicted Appelbaum of the crime of rape, he is not a rapist. I know Jake very well, I've worked with him in the past and he has conned me into bailing him out of several situations. I also know a good number of women he has dated, including two ex-gfs of mine. I have little doubt of his guilt. Anybody w…

I can see why you would feel strongly about this if you've been involved in a dramatic love triangle with Jake. However, how does it have anything whatsoever to do with Assange or Wikileaks?

It's an ad hominem attack, an attempt to distract from the actual issue at hand. I.e., focusing on Chelsea Manning's sexual preferences, or on Snowden being a "narcissist".

Re: Malicious ZIP archives found in the AKP leak on the Wikileaks site

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Post by wavefunction » Thu, Sep 08, 2016, 2:33 PM UTC

dmix wrote: post #29

mtgx wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because there's a growing campaign trying to paint Wikileaks as a the "bad guys" (again). Combine that with the fact that most people don't want Trump to win, so they're automatically on Clinton's side, and with Clinton's deflection of the DNC hack documents that pointed to election rigging towards who hacked the DNC, and that anti-Wikileaks campaign is suddenly a lot more effective. So now when other sites write abo…

True, Wikileaks has become politicized recently. I like to check the comment section on NYTimes and other news sites around election times. They always seem to be far more partisan than usual. Almost like people are whipped up into a frenzy supporting their sports franchise to the point it almost seems fake. Considering there are hundreds of millions of dollars going into either side of the campaign I'd question the…

Have you missed the substantial news about the David Brock led efforts at "CorrectTheRecord?"[0] He was a GOP operative for a long time until he started working for the Clinton candidacy. His organization has even been accused of posting child pornography to Bernie Sanders facebook pages in order to get them disrupted and shut-down.

I don't doubt there are similar efforts on the part of the GOP or Donald Trump supporters.

Bernie Sanders was subject to vicious propaganda and a generally adversarial mass-media, then when the Democratic nomination was "clinched" by Hillary a sudden swelling of negative media stories on the Green Party's Jill Stein and Libertarian Party's Gary Johnson filled the media channels.

Up until that point, they received almost no media coverage.

This has been the nastiest and most manipulative Presidential election I can remember, though I am only 37 so take that as you will. One thing is certain, hard-core progressives and leftists now know for certain what the DNC and Democrats are really about, and how low they will go to accomplish that.

[0]http://correctrecord.org/about/

Re: Malicious ZIP archives found in the AKP leak on the Wikileaks site

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Post by jazzyk » Thu, Sep 08, 2016, 2:33 PM UTC

mtgx wrote: post #19

dmix wrote: post #14

So a spammy email in one of the thousands leaked happened to contained malware? And this is newsworthy why? People here are using this to question Wikileaks integrity but it seems like a minor mistake given the contents of the dump. This has happened before in hacker dumps on a number of occasions but this one isn't even malicious (targeting wikileaks users). I don't open random zips from spam emails on my machine an…

Because there's a growing campaign trying to paint Wikileaks as a the "bad guys" (again). Combine that with the fact that most people don't want Trump to win, so they're automatically on Clinton's side, and with Clinton's deflection of the DNC hack documents that pointed to election rigging towards who hacked the DNC, and that anti-Wikileaks campaign is suddenly a lot more effective. So now when other sites write abo…

>Combine that with the fact that most people don't want Trump to win

Just to bring you back to planet Earth, all the latest polls show the two major candidates in dead heat.

Re: Malicious ZIP archives found in the AKP leak on the Wikileaks site

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Post by alex_hitchins » Thu, Sep 08, 2016, 2:33 PM UTC

grandalf wrote: post #35

amyjess wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wikileaks' actions this year have done nothing but prove to me that Wikileaks is just another arm of the alt-right. When you add in Julian Assange's antisemitism and lack of respect for women, it all makes sense.

> lack of respect for women Is there any evidence that he lacks respect for women? I have not yet seen any. He was accused of something which in Sweden is called "rape" but in the US would be called "consensual sex". Is that what you are referring to?

> In Sweden is called "rape" but in the US would be called "consensual sex"

If you have sex with someone and tell them you will use a condom and don't, that isn't consensual.

Re: Malicious ZIP archives found in the AKP leak on the Wikileaks site

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Post by burkaman » Thu, Sep 08, 2016, 2:34 PM UTC

dmix wrote: post #29

mtgx wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because there's a growing campaign trying to paint Wikileaks as a the "bad guys" (again). Combine that with the fact that most people don't want Trump to win, so they're automatically on Clinton's side, and with Clinton's deflection of the DNC hack documents that pointed to election rigging towards who hacked the DNC, and that anti-Wikileaks campaign is suddenly a lot more effective. So now when other sites write abo…

True, Wikileaks has become politicized recently. I like to check the comment section on NYTimes and other news sites around election times. They always seem to be far more partisan than usual. Almost like people are whipped up into a frenzy supporting their sports franchise to the point it almost seems fake. Considering there are hundreds of millions of dollars going into either side of the campaign I'd question the…

Wikileaks politicized themselves, look at their Twitter. They clearly made a conscious decision to take a side in a partisan election, rather than just releasing documents and letting them speak for themselves. You can agree or disagree with that decision, but I don't think there needs to be an astroturf conspiracy driving this narrative.

If they only commented on their leaks, that would be one thing, you can't really blame them for not having any Trump documents. But they've given extensive commentary on the email scandal and the FBI investigation, which frankly have nothing to do with their leaks.