Dell Closes $60B Merger with EMC • Hacker News Board

Re: Dell Closes $60B Merger with EMC

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Post by paulv » Thu, Sep 08, 2016, 1:05 AM UTC

2close4comfort wrote: post #43

chollida1 wrote: post #2

The new company services 98% of all fortune 500 companies. That's a pretty incredible reach. And 140,000 employee's. If I were a betting main, I'd expect that number to drop in the very near term. Selfishly I'm very interested in following a private Dell,as tech tends to lead to huge companies in monopoly/winner take all verticals. Dell being private is a decent case study to see how well a private company does again…

The real opening EMC has is now being able to sell directly, effectively cutting out the Partner channel which EMC has cultivated over the years and which is why it costs so much by the time you am me go to buy storage. This is where that credit will come in handy. But really how many companies have DIED after being acquired by Dell, Compellent, Sonicwall, Quest SW, and now VMware/EMC. This is where things go to die…

What's remaining of Quest/Sonicwall/Dell Software was sold a few months ago.

Re: Dell Closes $60B Merger with EMC

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Post by liveoneggs » Thu, Sep 08, 2016, 1:07 AM UTC

cmdkeen wrote: post #56

liveoneggs wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

even compared to 3PAR or even NetApp they're crazy expensive

You don't buy them for when they work. You buy them for when it goes wrong. At that point EMC type firms will throw engineers at the problem and provide plenty of relationship managers to help you keep your job (sorry, assist in ensuring that your business relationship continues to be mutually beneficial). No-one ever got fired for buying IBM.

I've been on hours-long support calls with EMC and they acted like every other vendor in the world blaming your month-old firmware and deny deny deny and then "oh my shift is up", so whatever works for you if you want to throw money away.

Re: Dell Closes $60B Merger with EMC

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Post by afraidknot » Thu, Sep 08, 2016, 1:45 AM UTC

2trill2spill wrote: post #58

I hope Dell does not screw up EMC Isilon, because Isilon is a big contributor to the FreeBSD project and it would suck to lose their contributions. The link below shows the over 3,000 commits they have made to the FreeBSD project over the years. https://secure.freshbsd.org/search?project=freebsd&q=emc

Not quite on the same scale, but they do care - https://secure.freshbsd.org/search?project=freebsd&q=dell

Re: Dell Closes $60B Merger with EMC

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Post by nine_k » Thu, Sep 08, 2016, 2:01 AM UTC

cobookman wrote: post #68

rodgerd wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It wouldn't be uncommon for a Fortune 500 to have no Dell or EMC. It would be a very unusual Fortune 500 that has no VMWare.

Alphabet? I dont think they have any dell, emc, or vmware equipment.

While at Google, I worked on a Dell workstation. Not everything must be 'n datacenters.

Re: Dell Closes $60B Merger with EMC

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Post by keypusher » Thu, Sep 08, 2016, 2:46 AM UTC

B1FF_PSUVM wrote: post #7

chollida1 wrote: post #2

The new company services 98% of all fortune 500 companies. That's a pretty incredible reach. And 140,000 employee's. If I were a betting main, I'd expect that number to drop in the very near term. Selfishly I'm very interested in following a private Dell,as tech tends to lead to huge companies in monopoly/winner take all verticals. Dell being private is a decent case study to see how well a private company does again…

> services 98% of all fortune 500 companies. So it's a short list of ten for the other 2%. IBM, HP, ... ?? (Clarification: the ten who don't buy from Dell+EMC. Just curious about that. Direct competitors is my first guess ...)

HDS (Hitachi Data Systems). Average guy on the street may never have heard of them, but they sell a ton of storage to Fortune 500.

Re: Dell Closes $60B Merger with EMC

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Post by walrus01 » Thu, Sep 08, 2016, 3:07 AM UTC

You, too, need a $200,000 SAN with software licensing costs, even if you don't know it yet! Even if you're a small business that would be served well by two machines with mdadm raid6 and Linux drbd.

Re: Dell Closes $60B Merger with EMC

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Post by lynxbat » Thu, Sep 08, 2016, 6:08 AM UTC

icelancer wrote: post #14

B1FF_PSUVM wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> services 98% of all fortune 500 companies. So it's a short list of ten for the other 2%. IBM, HP, ... ?? (Clarification: the ten who don't buy from Dell+EMC. Just curious about that. Direct competitors is my first guess ...)

AAPL.

I believe iCloud runs on Isilon

Re: Dell Closes $60B Merger with EMC

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Post by rodgerd » Thu, Sep 08, 2016, 6:50 AM UTC

loeg wrote: post #79

cobookman wrote: post #68

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Alphabet? I dont think they have any dell, emc, or vmware equipment.

They're pretty unusual.

I'm not sure why you got downvoted - the number of companies that are in the Fortune 500 and would run purely with KVM, Xen, or other non-VMWare hypervisors is pretty small.

Re: Dell Closes $60B Merger with EMC

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Post by freehunter » Thu, Sep 08, 2016, 1:43 PM UTC

WaltPurvis wrote: post #85

cobookman wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Alphabet? I dont think they have any dell, emc, or vmware equipment.

"Any" is a strong claim. Alphabet has 60,000+ employees across dozens of divisions and subsidiaries, many of which came through acquisition. It's extremely unlikely that nobody , in any of these groups, is using a Dell server or one of EMC's fifty different models of storage arrays. (Or, to be somewhat ridiculous about it, using a Dell monitor or laptop.)

Or running VMWare Fusion.

Re: Dell Closes $60B Merger with EMC

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Post by freehunter » Thu, Sep 08, 2016, 1:45 PM UTC

flukus wrote: post #77

B1FF_PSUVM wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> services 98% of all fortune 500 companies. So it's a short list of ten for the other 2%. IBM, HP, ... ?? (Clarification: the ten who don't buy from Dell+EMC. Just curious about that. Direct competitors is my first guess ...)

IBM is primarily a services company aren't they?

For the most part our services compliment our products. You could argue we're a products company that also offers services, or a service company that offers products. Either way, I work in services supporting an in-house product. So at the least, we have both.