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Re: I am a fast webpage

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Post by trymas »

begriffs wrote: post #159

OP has certainly nailed Hacker News psychology. My old coworker called the technique "inferiority porn." Titles like "the secretly terrible developer" or the closing statement of this particular article: "Go away from me, I am too far beyond your ability to comprehend." As many people have pointed out there are faster methods of static hosting through a CDN, and many of the techniques of this site are inapplicable fo…

I hate this trend.

IMHO there is mainly one way to get attention - it's to get (great and instant) emotion from the user. You can give good emotions or bad emotions.

Personally, I think, that to create a good emotion takes much more effort than to create a bad one. The website/product can say how great am I, but it will not 'click' as instantly as someone telling me I am a dumb baby and I suck [0][1] or I am not superior mere mortal baboon [2], for which most people will get instant rage and will start flame wars in whatever comment section, as there "is no such thing as bad PR".

Most popular writer/bloggers in my country have created these dipshit arogant characters (I tend to believe that they are "normal" people, but they clearly know what sells) who always say that they are richer, smarter and better than you. They create stories about "cheap restaurant breakfast for 60€" and so on, though the most interesting thing is that people buy their shit and then rage on whatever websites about how dared the writer call them a dumbass homeless bum.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nbkaYsR94c

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12448545

[2] https://varvy.com/pagespeed/wicked-fast.html

Re: I am a fast webpage

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Post by hn_user2 »

niftich wrote: post #70
zackbloom wrote: post #4

Just to point out, there's no particular reason to host a page like this on a VPS at all. You could just throw it on S3. Even better, you could put it behind a CDN like Cloudfront and the total cost would be a dollar or two a month, not $25+ and it would be significantly faster.

How do you prevent S3 from slashdotting your wallet if your site suddenly gets really popular?

You don't really.

I guess everyone's needs are different, but for me, hardly anyone reads anything I write. If I have a sudden surge in interest in something I wrote, last thing I want is to cut off access to it. Would rather keep paying the infinitesimal amount per page view to keep people reading it.

Re: I am a fast webpage

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Post by HugoDaniel »

Inline all your CSS and you are forcing all your users a full reload whenever you need to change/add something.

This can be tricky if your page grows in complexity/size and you need to change something.

Please, when is more appropriate don't inline your CSS and prefer to take advantage of cache.

Re: I am a fast webpage

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Post by fakename »

meowface wrote: post #200
mikepurvis wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, whether the VPS has an SSD or not is totally irrelevant— if you really were serving a single page it would be cached in the memory of your webserver. (Or better yet, serve the thing off S3 and let Amazon be your CDN.)

Hell, I'd just use my Dropbox account.

Dropbox is disabling html hosting on October 3rd

Re: I am a fast webpage

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Post by HugoDaniel »

quinndupont wrote: post #12

Is this image inlining thing something new? Am I reading it correctly that the images are encoded in base64 and delivered as html? Surely this is a bad idea... no?

The biggest problem with inlining images (imo bigger than the base64 size increase) is that when you change something (like a word in the text of the page) you are forcing your users a full reload of the page (images included). Most of these performance tips assume things won't change.

We know life doesn't work that way.

Re: I am a fast webpage

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Post by JDiculous »

zackbloom wrote: post #4

Just to point out, there's no particular reason to host a page like this on a VPS at all. You could just throw it on S3. Even better, you could put it behind a CDN like Cloudfront and the total cost would be a dollar or two a month, not $25+ and it would be significantly faster.

GitHub Pages is a 100% free alternative

Re: I am a fast webpage

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Post by rtpg »

twhb wrote: post #199
jlmorton wrote: post #77

I hate to be negative, but what really is the point of this? That a simple webpage without any content can be fast? Of course it can. Is it desirable to inline your CSS, "like a boss?" Maybe if you have one single web page. What if you have dynamic content and your users intend to browse more than one page? With externalized CSS, that is all cached. Same with images. If I'm building a web application, I certainly do…

This guy's advice is exactly what Google advises you to do, and exactly what Google does. You say this website is only fast because it's "without any content". If there's no content then tell me how it communicated its point so clearly. If it's inherently fast then tell me why the same thing posted to Medium is so slow. A hallmark of a great solution is that people who see it decide the problem must not have been ver…

Google doesn't do this on their more full-featured apps like G-Mail or Google Docs. Docs ships a bunch of files and stylesheets.

Search works well because they have relatively few features to support by default (for things like the calculator I bet they ship that in with the response).

Re: I am a fast webpage

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Post by Annatar »

simbalion wrote: post #126
jlmorton wrote: post #77

I hate to be negative, but what really is the point of this? That a simple webpage without any content can be fast? Of course it can. Is it desirable to inline your CSS, "like a boss?" Maybe if you have one single web page. What if you have dynamic content and your users intend to browse more than one page? With externalized CSS, that is all cached. Same with images. If I'm building a web application, I certainly do…

the guy says he's not an idiot then brags about spending $30 per month on a VPS (idiot), for a single-page static HTML website with all inline-code (idiot+1). It's not being negative to point out the glaring flaws in a person's statements. My assumption is the entire thing is an advertisement for that hosting service.

the guy says he's not an idiot then brags about spending $30 per month on a VPS (idiot),

You can always go with cheap, fully virtualized GNU/Linux server, or you can go with a virtual, true UNIX server running at the speed of bare metal[1].

Your choice, but quality, correctness of operation, data integrity and performance still cost something. It you don't care about any of those things, fork out $5 for the alternative and call it a day.

[1] http://www.joyent.com/

Re: I am a fast webpage

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Post by dazc »

jlmorton wrote: post #77

I hate to be negative, but what really is the point of this? That a simple webpage without any content can be fast? Of course it can. Is it desirable to inline your CSS, "like a boss?" Maybe if you have one single web page. What if you have dynamic content and your users intend to browse more than one page? With externalized CSS, that is all cached. Same with images. If I'm building a web application, I certainly do…

I have come across this guy's site before and he does offer some useful tips. Not anything you won't find anywhere else but in a clear and concise manner that almost anyone can understand.

There are lots of people self-managing small sites that don't have a clue about any of this stuff - it's a decent resource for such people - nothing more.

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