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Re: I am a fast webpage

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Post by rocky1138 »

r3bl wrote: post #114
jayess wrote: post #95

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Re: I am a fast webpage

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Post by andai »

CorvusCrypto wrote: post #67
honkhonkpants wrote: post #21

The bit about being hosted on SSDs is silly. I could host that site in unused registers of my CPU.

was thinking exactly this, keep loaded in mem for the duration of the server's lifetime. Not too familiar with HTTP2 but could you cache the compressed packet and reuse with minor modification to the headers when needed to speed up the communication?

Not familiar either, but that's an amazing idea

Re: I am a fast webpage

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Post by vertex-four »

simbalion wrote: post #129
wruza wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meaningless-weaningless, but that site loaded instantly on my iphone 4-without-s and did not lag, unlike all others (except hn ofc). No CDN can hide modern js freezotrons.

That's because all those other sites are poorly built. It's not because the article's site is a brilliant example of "doing it right". Putting bare text on the web is always going to be fast. So what. If he presented a real full-featured website with the bells and whistles that people expect today, and made it operate that fast, he'd have something to show. Instead he presents polished garbage.

Wait - what precisely do users demand from your website today? Usually I'm happy to find a website which loads quickly, is clean, and steers me in the direction of whatever I'm trying to find, personally.

Re: I am a fast webpage

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Post by mikekchar »

33degrees wrote: post #65
cperciva wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You forgot the most important factor: Whether you're reusing that image on a different page. Embedding images in the HTML is basically saving an HTTP request at the expense of not being able to cache the image separately from the HTML.

You can, however, embed images in CSS, which gives you both reduced requests and caching.

Unless you inline the CSS ;-)

Re: I am a fast webpage

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Post by neoCrimeLabs »

rospaya wrote: post #131
neoCrimeLabs wrote: post #5

> "I am not on a shared host, I am hosted on a VPS" Hate to break it to you, but your virtual private server (VPS) is likely sharing a bare-metal server with other VPS. ;-) Also, you can look into content delivery networks (aka CDN), which will most likely deliver this page faster to clients than your VPS especially when you consider your VPS is in Dallas and CDN's have nodes located around the world.

> Hate to break it to you, but your virtual private server (VPS) is likely sharing a bare-metal server with other VPS. ;-) Likely? Isn't that the point of a VPS?

You can reserve entire machines, even using VPS. Heck, you can even luck out and be the first VPS on a newly provision host.

Chances of either, slim. Still I try not to assume when I don't have the data.

Re: I am a fast webpage

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Post by neoCrimeLabs »

ajosh wrote: post #110
neoCrimeLabs wrote: post #5

> "I am not on a shared host, I am hosted on a VPS" Hate to break it to you, but your virtual private server (VPS) is likely sharing a bare-metal server with other VPS. ;-) Also, you can look into content delivery networks (aka CDN), which will most likely deliver this page faster to clients than your VPS especially when you consider your VPS is in Dallas and CDN's have nodes located around the world.

I think he is contrasting VPS service to shared hosting services like Go Daddy or one of the many cPanel providers. Unless a VPS is using OpenVZ, the box isn't over provisioned. A cPanel host is usually very over provisioned. 500 customers per server wss not uncommon 10 years ago.

With a Linux host, you can oversubscribe KVM guests, and I'm starting to see it more frequently. Still haven't seen as bad as shared hosts, however.

Kernel Same-Page Merging allows you to de-dup common pages across virtual hosts (such as kernel) for example. http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/KSM

Re: I am a fast webpage

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Post by mikekchar »

baristaGeek wrote: post #125
Scarbutt wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A technology such as Bootstrap will always be the way to go What? Why?

Bootstrap was just an example. It could Bootstrap, Materialize, W3.CSS, etc. The point is that it's much more convenient to reuse code from a framework, because it's better to sacrifice file size for fast iteration and functionality.

There is always a tipping point. We tend to use Bootstrap a lot at work for the reasons you mention, but you can pretty quickly get to the point where your CSS is complex enough that you would have been better off doing it from scratch. All frameworks are like that -- you trade off initial convenience for design constraints.

When I'm doing my own projects I always write my CSS by hand because it ends up less complex in the end. I don't need to see pretty things up front like my corporate customers do.

Re: I am a fast webpage

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Post by mikepurvis »

simbalion wrote: post #126
jlmorton wrote: post #77

I hate to be negative, but what really is the point of this? That a simple webpage without any content can be fast? Of course it can. Is it desirable to inline your CSS, "like a boss?" Maybe if you have one single web page. What if you have dynamic content and your users intend to browse more than one page? With externalized CSS, that is all cached. Same with images. If I'm building a web application, I certainly do…

the guy says he's not an idiot then brags about spending $30 per month on a VPS (idiot), for a single-page static HTML website with all inline-code (idiot+1). It's not being negative to point out the glaring flaws in a person's statements. My assumption is the entire thing is an advertisement for that hosting service.

Also, whether the VPS has an SSD or not is totally irrelevant— if you really were serving a single page it would be cached in the memory of your webserver.

(Or better yet, serve the thing off S3 and let Amazon be your CDN.)

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