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The privacy wars are about to get a whole lot worse

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Re: The privacy wars are about to get a whole lot worse

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I used to feel strongly about not trading my privacy away for some convenience. For a long time I took a luddite pride in not being on various services, having a dumb phone, keeping it turned off, etc. Over time, though, I've found myself having a change of heart. What started as little inconveniences have turned into big ones, as I'm more and more out of touch with my peers, contemporaries, and family. I don't like…

I also try to find a compromise. If we're talking pragmatic, as opposed to ideal, my suggestions in the current environment are:

1) Be offline as much as possible. I have banished the webbrowser from my phone and tablets. The main computer is completely airgapped; I keep an old laptop around to go online. But I installed an app called Self-Control and use it in whitelist mode. I keep a separate To Do list for things that require internet access and when the time I set in Self-Control has passed, I do all my "internet errands" in one go. Usually does not take more than 1-2 hours/ week all in all.

2) Since you care about privacy, you already do all this but for completeness sake: ublock, ghostery, etc. are your friend. I also use an app called Little Snitch. Very useful! Obviously, I don't approve of Facebook, Google etc. but I actually went one step further and block all their properties in Little Snitch. No beacons, "like buttons" or supercookies for me, thank you.

3) Even with (2), I avoid the web as much as possible. In fact, with the exception of HN, I'm usually not on the web anymore. For news or some light magazine reading, I download the PDF editions (or have them sent to my email). For documentation and manuals, I use an offline reader called Dash. When I want to watch a video, I use youtube-dl (on my "internet groceries day"). For ebooks, I have a dedicated reader that is completely offline (needless to say, I do not sync with "the cloud"; Marvin is an excellent alternative to iBooks for reading epubs). In general, all my media library is local: Music, movies, TV shows, magazines/newspapers,…. I don't do streaming, I don't do "cloud". Storage is cheap, why give up your privacy for nothing? Unlike fking webpages, PDFs don't track your reading/thinking behind your back, you can annotate them if you want, and overall I think they offer a better reading experience compared to a webbrowser, esp. on a bigger tablet like the iPad Pro or (haven't tried but should be the same) Surface. Since I really, really dislike ads (= being told what to think, how to feel, etc) I even paste over all the ads before I read a magazine or newspaper! After a bit of practice, I can do it now in about 1-2 minutes per PDF. It's a small price to pay to keep these mercenary memes from infiltrating your mind.

4) For email, I switched to Protonmail. I understand that the NSA can hack them if they really want, but that's okay, they are not my threat model. My goal is to keep what I write in confidence from being read by Google/Gmail, Microsoft/Hotmail etc. So I usually send "pseudo-encrypted" versions to such addresses (where the reader has to enter a simple password, just to keep it from being machine-read as per default). Alternatively, I might send an encrypted PDF if it's more formal or important.

5) For more fluid, extemporaneous communications with friends and family, I mainly use iMessages. In general, Apple is your sole remaining friend among the mainstream vendors (and like I said, I'm talking pragmatic here, not ideal). If someone is on Android, there's still the cross-platform Signal app. Facebook-owned Whatsapp is an obvious no-go. I found that people usually can understand if I explain it to them why. It's like second-hand smoking, only worse. If they insist on exposing me to their "smoke" (or, negative externalities), then I cut the contact.

One last comment: If you feel like you are getting "de-synchronized" from your environment, consider that that might actually be a sign that you are detaching from the hivemind and starting to think on your own again. It's not a guarantee that you will be more (or more often) right than the crowd but at least you have a chance of thinking an interesting thought or developing your own good taste, of not being trite. So take courage! :-) I found that with a bit of effort, it's possible to keep some measure of privacy and make it a bit harder for these people to psychologically profile and manipulate you.

Re: The privacy wars are about to get a whole lot worse

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I like Cory Doctorow. I really do, and I agree that this is a problem. But as I argue, the genie is already out of the bottle, the cat is out of the bag and the barn door is open. What we should focus on instead is mechanisms for mitigating and punishing malicious use of data, AS WELL AS putting the surveillance to good use, eg body cameras for on-duty police officers: http://magarshak.com/blog/?p=169

Body cameras on politicians and all bureaucrats above a specific paygrade.

And corporate officers.

Re: The privacy wars are about to get a whole lot worse

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I'm waiting to see if this gets traction on HN. In case it doesn't, and so I can propose something only to the few who dig to the bottom of the comments: The problem is social. A technological solution will not suffice.

I'd really like to see your extended thoughts, and this is getting better traction than I'd hoped when submitting it.

I half agree with you: technological solutions alone will not suffice, though they may be part of the solution.

But additionally, legal reforms, economic reforms, and social reforms need to be part of this.

Legal reforms to limit the ability of organisations to access, appropriate, store, exchange, and act based on exfiltrated data.

Economic reforms, as noted, to change the business model of publishing from ads-supported media.

Social reforms such that people push back on this. That's less a burden than necessary, IMO, as awareness of the scope of invasion seems highly developed, though responses to that are presently limited.

In concert with the above, provided and mandated technical means for people to protect their information, and to keep corporations and other organisations from grabbing and using it in the first place.

Re: The privacy wars are about to get a whole lot worse

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Why doesn't Firefox ship with third-party cookies disabled? What would it break that isn't user-hostile? ( edit Chrome, IE, Safari, I understand, but privacy is one of Firefox's main differentiators.)

I always disable third-party cookies and very rarely does it break something. The most recent one I remember is logging in at the Origin website (online game store). The login form at checkout doesn't load at all without third-party cookies.

While I would love to browse the web with all security and privacy features enabled and things like JavaScript disabled, it breaks too much. The middle ground between security/privacy and user experience/convenience is different for everyone.

Re: The privacy wars are about to get a whole lot worse

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post #18
post #8

I used to feel strongly about not trading my privacy away for some convenience. For a long time I took a luddite pride in not being on various services, having a dumb phone, keeping it turned off, etc. Over time, though, I've found myself having a change of heart. What started as little inconveniences have turned into big ones, as I'm more and more out of touch with my peers, contemporaries, and family. I don't like…

In theory the European Union has a bit better law than the US in this area. I write in theory - because in practice the USA does not need to abide by it - and it is mostly US companies that keep our data. As to the awareness group - I guess this will be controversial - but there are the Pirate Parties with privacy in the core of their ideology. Personally I think that we'll have to give up strict privacy - it is inev…

This is only an inevitability because we do not control our software and hardware. It is entirely possible to replace most of these privacy-destroying technologies and services with privacy-respecting free software solutions. Check out this list of alternatives, for example: https://degooglisons-internet.org/liste?l=en

Re: The privacy wars are about to get a whole lot worse

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post #8

I used to feel strongly about not trading my privacy away for some convenience. For a long time I took a luddite pride in not being on various services, having a dumb phone, keeping it turned off, etc. Over time, though, I've found myself having a change of heart. What started as little inconveniences have turned into big ones, as I'm more and more out of touch with my peers, contemporaries, and family. I don't like…

I don't want to give up, and I don't want to check out.

One thing to try, would be to lie more. We don't owe giant corporations the truth, but we especially don't owe them the whole truth. Never use your real name. Use fake addresses when you can. Use different email accounts for each site that needs one. Never use "social media logins". When you have to make payments, do so through Paypal or some other obfuscating service. Zealously delete cookies, and use whatever tech is available to help with that.

There are probably theoretical ways around this, "fingerprinting" etc. It might be like outrunning the lion, however: one might only have to be faster than some other prey, who happily stays logged into FB all the time even when ordering sex toys and vaporizers.

Re: The privacy wars are about to get a whole lot worse

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post #8

I used to feel strongly about not trading my privacy away for some convenience. For a long time I took a luddite pride in not being on various services, having a dumb phone, keeping it turned off, etc. Over time, though, I've found myself having a change of heart. What started as little inconveniences have turned into big ones, as I'm more and more out of touch with my peers, contemporaries, and family. I don't like…

> Companies can still track me, my data's still out there.

I don' think this is right. When you were being a "luddite" you probably had less data collected about you, but you couldn't see that. All you can see is the cool tech stuff you are missing out on, so you feel that keenly.

I think the reason a lot of people give up their privacy is that they feel like they have lost it already, so they might as well "Get what they can" from it. I don't think this is the right way to think about things. Not every company is sharing data with every other company (yet), so each new toy/app/gadget you used by a different company creates a new entry in some database about you.

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