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The privacy wars are about to get a whole lot worse

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Re: The privacy wars are about to get a whole lot worse

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My thought on this, for some time, has been that people need ways to effectively express, legally and technically, their disagreement and noncooperation with such terms.

An alternative model for funding both innovative reasearch and creative content (writing, music, film/video, visual, and other arts) also seems increasingly essential. Information and culture are public goods, and cash-on-the-barrelhead (or bitcoin-through-the-anonymised-exchange) transactions are largely not appropriate for them.

I am very much hoping this all dies in a fire. I'm increasingly concerned as to just how all-encompassing that fire may turn out to be.

Re: The privacy wars are about to get a whole lot worse

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My thought on this, for some time, has been that people need ways to effectively express, legally and technically, their disagreement and noncooperation with such terms. An alternative model for funding both innovative reasearch and creative content (writing, music, film/video, visual, and other arts) also seems increasingly essential. Information and culture are public goods, and cash-on-the-barrelhead (or bitcoin-t…

Well, the most effective response is already here: don't use the service.

While that can be a big ask for many services, we're also doing a great job of replicating the functionality of many closed services in an open way. As long as the FOSS/hobby tech world still cares, we'll keep biting away at the new markets closed services create.

Re: The privacy wars are about to get a whole lot worse

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My thought on this, for some time, has been that people need ways to effectively express, legally and technically, their disagreement and noncooperation with such terms. An alternative model for funding both innovative reasearch and creative content (writing, music, film/video, visual, and other arts) also seems increasingly essential. Information and culture are public goods, and cash-on-the-barrelhead (or bitcoin-t…

Well, the most effective response is already here: don't use the service. While that can be a big ask for many services, we're also doing a great job of replicating the functionality of many closed services in an open way. As long as the FOSS/hobby tech world still cares, we'll keep biting away at the new markets closed services create.

> As long as the FOSS/hobby tech world still cares, we'll keep biting away at the new markets closed services create.

I think nibbling away is more accurate. There are still no privacy-conscious alternatives to the big 3 social networks (Facebook/Twitter/LinkedIn) and none on the horizon. Yes technological alternatives exist, but not practical ones as I'm not likely to run into someone using Diaspora in real life.

This is similar to GNU/Linux vs. Windows on desktop where Linux gained a little bit of market share but was never a real alternative when it mattered. That defeat is all the worse in retrospect as Windows 10 is now a great vector of privacy invasion for Microsoft.

From a social justice POV, "just don't use the service" may be practical for those with a lot of education and opportunities for employment, but is a non-starter for someone who needs LinkedIn to find work or whose landlord expects to snoop through their Facebook account. We need a solution that helps everyone, not just those with the know-how and economic freedom to use niche alternatives.

Re: The privacy wars are about to get a whole lot worse

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My thought on this, for some time, has been that people need ways to effectively express, legally and technically, their disagreement and noncooperation with such terms. An alternative model for funding both innovative reasearch and creative content (writing, music, film/video, visual, and other arts) also seems increasingly essential. Information and culture are public goods, and cash-on-the-barrelhead (or bitcoin-t…

Well, the most effective response is already here: don't use the service. While that can be a big ask for many services, we're also doing a great job of replicating the functionality of many closed services in an open way. As long as the FOSS/hobby tech world still cares, we'll keep biting away at the new markets closed services create.

Actually, not: https://mako.cc/copyrighteous/google-has-most-of-my-email-be...

Other problems:

* Services you use indirectly.

* Services your employer uses and reires you to use.

* Services a government service requires use of.

As technological tools become part of the social, corporate, governmental, and institutional infrastructure, "opting out" becomes an increasingly less viable, and more punishing, alternative.

Too: you're denying the specific tools which directly address the situation. Legal and technical means to loudly and clearly state "no", or to sue for damages where this isn't possible.

Re: The privacy wars are about to get a whole lot worse

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I like Cory Doctorow. I really do, and I agree that this is a problem. But as I argue, the genie is already out of the bottle, the cat is out of the bag and the barn door is open. What we should focus on instead is mechanisms for mitigating and punishing malicious use of data, AS WELL AS putting the surveillance to good use, eg body cameras for on-duty police officers:

http://magarshak.com/blog/?p=169

Re: The privacy wars are about to get a whole lot worse

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I used to feel strongly about not trading my privacy away for some convenience. For a long time I took a luddite pride in not being on various services, having a dumb phone, keeping it turned off, etc. Over time, though, I've found myself having a change of heart. What started as little inconveniences have turned into big ones, as I'm more and more out of touch with my peers, contemporaries, and family. I don't like that. And for what? Companies can still track me, my data's still out there.

But I still care about privacy. It's a basic human right. What I've realized is that our laws are lousy at enshrining that right--companies can largely do what they want, etc.,--and we're lousy as a society at recognizing the value of that right.

So I'm curious, are there any cities, counties, states with any sort of legislative efforts going on to strengthen the citizens' rights to privacy and ownership of data? Is there anyone we can look to as a model for "privacy and data ownership done right," something to work toward implementing at a national level?

Is there any awareness group working to raise these issues in a way that's actually accessible to the general public? (Are they doing a good job at it?)

I don't want to give up, and I don't want to check out. I like my shiny devices and assistants now, they make my life easier in little ways all the time. How can we balance that with the basic human right to own our data and retain our privacy?

Re: The privacy wars are about to get a whole lot worse

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, the most effective response is already here: don't use the service. While that can be a big ask for many services, we're also doing a great job of replicating the functionality of many closed services in an open way. As long as the FOSS/hobby tech world still cares, we'll keep biting away at the new markets closed services create.

> As long as the FOSS/hobby tech world still cares, we'll keep biting away at the new markets closed services create. I think nibbling away is more accurate. There are still no privacy-conscious alternatives to the big 3 social networks (Facebook/Twitter/LinkedIn) and none on the horizon. Yes technological alternatives exist, but not practical ones as I'm not likely to run into someone using Diaspora in real life. Th…

> There are still no privacy-conscious alternatives to the big 3 social networks (Facebook/Twitter/LinkedIn)

I'm not a member of LinkedIn so I'm constantly a bit confused by it. Does it offer anything compelling besides a list of the places you've worked and studied? Why couldn't I get the same benefit by putting up a static web page with a content form? Am I missing out on something?

Re: The privacy wars are about to get a whole lot worse

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My thought on this, for some time, has been that people need ways to effectively express, legally and technically, their disagreement and noncooperation with such terms. An alternative model for funding both innovative reasearch and creative content (writing, music, film/video, visual, and other arts) also seems increasingly essential. Information and culture are public goods, and cash-on-the-barrelhead (or bitcoin-t…

It doesn't matter. There are many ways to get information from you in "public" ways. We can get speech from video and keystrokes from sound. Target already predicts pregnancies, and facebook predicts breakups. China already has a citizen reputation system the way we have credit bureaus. We can identify you by your gait, or wifi signals in your home without you even moving. We store most of the CCTV video camera footage until such time as it would be useful.

And when will it be useful? The scariest thing is when all this data will be used by smart algorithms designed to construct plausible stories in a court of law about you, making anyone a target for legal threats and jailtime and intimidation. It's already the case in more totalitarian countries, but this is about free countries where juries of peers and other systems will be subverted with clever algorithms and a mountain of data to use.

All your blockchain and anonymous transactions are stored until such time as you slip up and get deanonymized.

All you are currently relying on -- all that our legal systems are relying on -- is inefficiency of the attacker. You think they can't cross reference enough materials, analyze them deep enough, at a large enough scale, fast enough, and can't put two and two together. But the growing repository of data is there to be (quantum-cracked and) mined for information.

Ask yourself this: what would it take for a determined attacker to ruin your reputation or credit today using only the techniques in the NSA field manual? https://theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/

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