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The Metaprogrammer

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Re: The Metaprogrammer

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Post by tempodox »

w0utert wrote: post #16
taurath wrote: post #5

Ah the never ending lament about programmers asking for nice things. Sorry, $4k in capital costs for someone you're paying well into 6 figures for to make your business exist isn't that bad. A fast pc is necessary depending on what you're doing - making knowledge workers more comfortable effects their output.

In addition to that, I fail to see the relation between people who like to talk about programming through whatever medium ('metaprogrammers') and people who like to have decent tools to work with. Literally every developer I have ever met wants to have a decent computer, multiple screens, fast internet, and access to the proper software tools required to work efficiently. It strikes me as an incredibly stupid argumen…

Maybe I'm not a decent programmer but I definitely don't want multiple screens. I would perceive such a set-up as unergonomic and creating too many distractions. Nothing against the rest, though.

Re: The Metaprogrammer

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

catmanjan wrote: post #28
taurath wrote: post #5

Ah the never ending lament about programmers asking for nice things. Sorry, $4k in capital costs for someone you're paying well into 6 figures for to make your business exist isn't that bad. A fast pc is necessary depending on what you're doing - making knowledge workers more comfortable effects their output.

Exactly, all these things are tools of the trade - tradesmen spend money on the right tools for the job because that (and experience) is what separates them from the DIY-ers

on the other hand only a poor craftsman blames their tools.

Re: The Metaprogrammer

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Post by [deleted] »

MichaelBurge wrote: post #20
taurath wrote: post #5

Ah the never ending lament about programmers asking for nice things. Sorry, $4k in capital costs for someone you're paying well into 6 figures for to make your business exist isn't that bad. A fast pc is necessary depending on what you're doing - making knowledge workers more comfortable effects their output.

> for someone you're paying well into 6 figures for My first programming job was $32k/year out of college(this was in 2011).

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Re: The Metaprogrammer

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Post by thecatspaw »

DanielBMarkham wrote: post #33

"...he would only ever consider someone to be a good programmer if they had a twitch livestream about programming..." I don't do twitch. Come back to me in ten years if it's still around, maybe I'll have time for it. But I make videos of my programming and add commentary as I go. I doubt anybody watches it, but I found it most enjoyable -- makes me think and vocalize each thing that I'm doing. Plus it gives me a good…

plus it keeps you from getting distracted. I did have a twitchstream of me coding once. It was awesome. Not once I got distracted, even though noone watched.

Re: The Metaprogrammer

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Post by ontouchstart »

sagischwarz wrote: post #31

This effect is observable not only in the programming community, but in many others. Best example would be photography, where people spend much more time discussing their equipment and the newest lenses instead of going out and actually take pictures. I had to experience this for myself when searching for new hobbies. With most of them, I spent most time with the meta, e.g., which fountain pen to use for my writing o…

Photogrophy is more about thinking in light and shadow than lenses and metapixels. Programming is more about thinking in states and interfaces than keyboards and displays.

You can only master abstract ideas through concrete practice and active thinking about the problems.

Re: The Metaprogrammer

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Post by quickben »

If the author of that blog doesn't see the benefit of a larger workspace area (monitors, configuration, etc) then there is no point in reading anything else he writes.

Why are stuff like this on HN?

Re: The Metaprogrammer

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Post by ontouchstart »

livarot wrote: post #39
sagischwarz wrote: post #31

This effect is observable not only in the programming community, but in many others. Best example would be photography, where people spend much more time discussing their equipment and the newest lenses instead of going out and actually take pictures. I had to experience this for myself when searching for new hobbies. With most of them, I spent most time with the meta, e.g., which fountain pen to use for my writing o…

Audiophiles - probably the most prominent example of them all.

The opposite is real musicians.
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