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Re: The Metaprogrammer

#12
post #7

Come on now, we real metaprogramming wimps carry our own keyboards with us and don't even bother to complain about the one provided. :-) Otoh, as an Emacs user my mouse costs about as much as one of the black espressos I exclusively drink for coffee. :-) Edit: This made me feel like the wimp I am. Time to stop the singer songwriters on my headphones and play some black metal. (And go to the gym for deadlifts or squat…

> Otoh, as an Emacs user my mouse costs about as much [...]

I didn't know a mouse can be an Emacs user. Where did you get one?

Re: The Metaprogrammer

#13
> "You post an article about a new programming language, you'll get 10 replies."

A quick search pulls up results that would contradict that statement.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7436401

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10901054

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8735892

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10177716

I realize four search results isn't enough to completely debunk the author's statement, but in my experience programmers love to talk about programming languages. If you start a conversation about an interesting new language, more often than not people will want to give their input.

Programmers also love to talk about their ideal working environment. Things like office chairs, keyboards, monitors and office perks are important to them because the majority of their time is spent at work.

Re: The Metaprogrammer

#14
I do not see anything strange in it. Author seems to be forgetting that while there is a myriad of frameworks and programming languages, we all share similar work setups and needs. Also, while a newbie might be afraid to talk with 'pros' about advantages of hygienic macros, he knows what headphones make him comfortable at work. I would redefine 'metaprogramming' as 'stuff that most of the programmers have in common'. That's why they talk so vividly about it.

Re: The Metaprogrammer

#16
post #5

Ah the never ending lament about programmers asking for nice things. Sorry, $4k in capital costs for someone you're paying well into 6 figures for to make your business exist isn't that bad. A fast pc is necessary depending on what you're doing - making knowledge workers more comfortable effects their output.

In addition to that, I fail to see the relation between people who like to talk about programming through whatever medium ('metaprogrammers') and people who like to have decent tools to work with. Literally every developer I have ever met wants to have a decent computer, multiple screens, fast internet, and access to the proper software tools required to work efficiently.

It strikes me as an incredibly stupid argument to make if anyone thinks you someone is spoiled for preferring good tools to do the job. Imagine a mechanic who can only use even-sized spanners, or a drywaller who can only use 5-liter buckets at a time.

Re: The Metaprogrammer

#17
For me a chair is important. I don't really care about perks and other stuff but knowing that I sit around 8 hours every day for a couple years in a good chair is as important for me as the work station.

And in most of the startups I worked so far there were only cheap chairs not so good for my back. In a way I understand the owners: they have startup they should buy the cheapest things possible because they don't know how long their startup will survive, but I like when someone makes an effort to provide good working conditions for the programmers.

I also used to care about the noise level, but again working in startups I had to get used to noisy open spaces.

Re: The Metaprogrammer

#20
post #5

Ah the never ending lament about programmers asking for nice things. Sorry, $4k in capital costs for someone you're paying well into 6 figures for to make your business exist isn't that bad. A fast pc is necessary depending on what you're doing - making knowledge workers more comfortable effects their output.

> for someone you're paying well into 6 figures for

My first programming job was $32k/year out of college(this was in 2011).

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