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How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

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Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

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post #6

Include a remotely-activated kill switch; and kill with plenty of warning. What do I mean? I no longer use iPhone because I installed a beta iOS. When the official build came out, I kept "checking for updates" but I never got an update. One day, Apple remotely killed my phone. Manually updating to the production iOS would be fine; but remotely disabling my phone without warning was not acceptable. This is why I refus…

I hope you have better luck with those Android betas

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

#122
post #15

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Couldn't you just put it in restore mode and install the latest version from iTunes, or manually download the IPSW from the internet and install it?

Yes, but my phone was remotely disabled and I don't live in front of my computer.

What part of "Install only on non-production devices that are not business critical." do you not understand?

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

#123
post #69

Heh, sounds much better than my previous employer's way of occasionally sending company-wide emails along the line of "The employee who was responsible for the XXX leak was found and terminated. We remind you that leaks damage our culture and make it difficult to share ideas inside the company." For some reason such emails made me feel like I was inside a tech cult. Guess my culture fit wasn't good enough... Well, to…

Sounds like standard business practice to me. If you can't understand basic instructions such as not leaking internal, confidential info, you deserve to be fired.

Oh, sure; I think the parent commenter's point was in thinking that emailing everyone about the termination of the leaker served as any sort of deterrence mechanism for people's use of the leaked build.

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

#124
post #95

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So - if an intruder breaks in to your house, you can shoot him without repercussions; but if an intruder breaks into your house and trips on your loose stair carpet, he can sue for his resulting injuries? Bizarre!

> So - if an intruder breaks in to your house, you can shoot him without repercussions In many US jurisdictions, not generally the case. The ones with a strong "castle doctrine" are notable because this is not the norm. But, even so... > So - if an intruder breaks in to your house, you can shoot him without repercussions Your loose stair carpet was not created as a specific and immediate response to a particular unla…

So you're saying that a loose carpet on stairs would be illegal (i.e. a booby trap of sorts), but a security system where I can hit an alarm button and then it'll deploy a loose carpet onto the stairs, would be just fine?

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

#125
post #19

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If the PC reboots with your work unsaved, you could lose a day's work, for example.

Hit that Ctrl-S now. And in 5 minutes. And 5 minutes after that. Repeat until you stop working today. Hit Ctrl-S every start of the day after 5 minutes of work. And 5 minutes after that. Repeat until you stop working that day. There you go. Saved you a lot of hours of work.

Use an OS that behaves in a way I like more.

Save when convenient.

Repeat as necessary.

I prefer to use software that behaves the way I want it to, rather than modifying my own behavior to work around its shortcomings.

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

#126
post #76

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Burglars have been known to go to court over getting injured in the commission of a crime, suing the property owner.

Is this one of those "only in America" stereotypes? I'd love to see how the hell they justified that, much less if they won

Burglars suing the owner also happened to France, which has a very crime friendly legislation.

For instance if you break in a house while the owner is on holidays, and stay a few days, not only the owner would have to go to court for years to kick you out, but the owner is not even legally permitted to enter his own house until after the execution of the eviction, after all appeals have been exhausted.

...not just in the US!

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

#127
post #76

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Burglars have been known to go to court over getting injured in the commission of a crime, suing the property owner.

Is this one of those "only in America" stereotypes? I'd love to see how the hell they justified that, much less if they won

It happens in Belgium.

Someone I know was away from home for an evening, and found the police at her door when she came back. Turns out some junky decided to break into her gardening shed to find something to force entry to the main house. Was so high he accidentally slit his wrist on the glass window he broke to climb inside the shed. Neighbours heard him cry and called the police.

Police told her she was very lucky he didn't die, as she was responsible for his well-being while breaking in.

In a related note, if you have a dog, you need a sign to warn burglers about it , as you have to safeguard anyone in your house, including burglars. If the sign talks about a dangerous dog, it means you knew the dog was dangerous and have a higher responsibility for injuries.

As far as I understand it (IANAL), the legal theory is that breaking in and failing to safeguard the burglar are 2 unrelated crimes, which each deserve their own punishment/damages.

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

#128

Seems like you could've achieved the end-goal by just warning of the danger and coming across like their safety is your primary concern rather than finding the leaks, i.e.: "Build 97241 contains a potentially fatal bug that could wipe your computer. If you are using Build 97241, please upgrade it to a more recent build or otherwise cease using this build immediately. We do not care how you acquired this build. We sim…

I was the first to upgrade from Ubuntu 15.10 to 16.04 in the office. I left my computer unlocked with a wallpaper slideshow on the desktop and when I returned everyone asked where I got my wallpapers from. Even though they were getting prompts to upgrade, they didn't until they noticed a changed. And I'm talking about developers here.

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

#129
post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So - if an intruder breaks in to your house, you can shoot him without repercussions In many US jurisdictions, not generally the case. The ones with a strong "castle doctrine" are notable because this is not the norm. But, even so... > So - if an intruder breaks in to your house, you can shoot him without repercussions Your loose stair carpet was not created as a specific and immediate response to a particular unla…

So you're saying that a loose carpet on stairs would be illegal (i.e. a booby trap of sorts), but a security system where I can hit an alarm button and then it'll deploy a loose carpet onto the stairs, would be just fine?

I assume there are some sort of safety standards and certifications needed to build and employ booby traps legally.

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

#130
post #76
post #73

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If you're running a pirated OS, are you really going to go to court over a missing disclaimer in the pirated EULA?!

Burglars have been known to go to court over getting injured in the commission of a crime, suing the property owner.

This seems to be an urban myth that gets often repeated but I've never actually seen a concrete example. Could someone point me to an example of someone suing a property owner because of an injury received in the commission of a crime?
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