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It's so astonishing that what takes this robot over an hour and a half to do can be processed by our brains in a fraction of a second. I am looking forward to being witness to the tightening of that gap.

They are using just a single GPU (from the paper). So the robot can actually be sped up even today. Still nowhere near human pattern recognition though.

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The robot is, true to its species description to date, robotic. It is performing the exact same sequence of operations - almost like first trying to generate a 3D model of the towel (the spin) followed by some cross checks (the twists) and then proceeds to fold it. It looks like there is no learning apparent from one towel fold to the next, which would be thoroughly fascinating if it were done in even the littlest of tasks simpler than towel folding.

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My first reaction: How much time and money did this cost? How is this benefiting anything? Is this a test of some operating system that will be used on other, more useful things, or just a science project?

I'm just saying, I don't see how this is efficient outside of "can we make a robot that folds towels?" Sure, it's pretty cool, even putting aside its slowness, but it seems like a lot of effort towards something with little application. When you're just /learning/ robotics you're supposed to experiment and make useless stuff, but this seems like a professional project.

I guess I'm not familiar with the whole world of robots-- maybe this stuff is normal and fine I'm thinking too much at 3 AM..

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My first reaction: How much time and money did this cost? How is this benefiting anything? Is this a test of some operating system that will be used on other, more useful things, or just a science project?

I'm just saying, I don't see how this is efficient outside of "can we make a robot that folds towels?" Sure, it's pretty cool, even putting aside its slowness, but it seems like a lot of effort towards something with little application. When you're just /learning/ robotics you're supposed to experiment and make useless stuff, but this seems like a professional project. I guess I'm not familiar with the whole world of…

The robot is picking up an object with a deformable geometry, analyzing that geometry, and then using that data to manipulate that geometry in a desired fashion. It does this with a series of objects of different sizes, shapes, and colorations. It was presumably not familiar with these particular objects ahead of time.

There's a lot going on here, and it's valuable to have done it.

Re: Robot that autonomously folds a pile of towels

#25

The robot is, true to its species description to date, robotic. It is performing the exact same sequence of operations - almost like first trying to generate a 3D model of the towel (the spin) followed by some cross checks (the twists) and then proceeds to fold it. It looks like there is no learning apparent from one towel fold to the next, which would be thoroughly fascinating if it were done in even the littlest of…

For comparison, checkout Rodney Brook's robot "Domo" - http://people.csail.mit.edu/brooks/currentrobots.html

Re: Robot that autonomously folds a pile of towels

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The robot is, true to its species description to date, robotic. It is performing the exact same sequence of operations - almost like first trying to generate a 3D model of the towel (the spin) followed by some cross checks (the twists) and then proceeds to fold it. It looks like there is no learning apparent from one towel fold to the next, which would be thoroughly fascinating if it were done in even the littlest of…

For comparison, checkout Rodney Brook's robot "Domo" - http://people.csail.mit.edu/brooks/currentrobots.html

Wow that is incredible

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This illustrates an important way of staying competitive globally: You don't want to be the country where people fold towels. You want to be the country that designs & builds robots that fold towels.

Yes. In 20 or 30 years when a robot can actually fold a towel as quickly as a human, those towel-folding economies are going to be in trouble. ;)

Re: Robot that autonomously folds a pile of towels

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The robot is, true to its species description to date, robotic. It is performing the exact same sequence of operations - almost like first trying to generate a 3D model of the towel (the spin) followed by some cross checks (the twists) and then proceeds to fold it. It looks like there is no learning apparent from one towel fold to the next, which would be thoroughly fascinating if it were done in even the littlest of…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Winslow_Taylor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_management

Re: Robot that autonomously folds a pile of towels

#30

This illustrates an important way of staying competitive globally: You don't want to be the country where people fold towels. You want to be the country that designs & builds robots that fold towels.

Yes. In 20 or 30 years when a robot can actually fold a towel as quickly as a human, those towel-folding economies are going to be in trouble. ;)

More like 2 or 3 years. The singularity is at hand.
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